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Leo's SECRET WARS: FINALE!!1! ABHI V BORG
battlefield is a newly terraformed MARS. Abhi repping strange/living laser, borgson thor/sinister.
judges are smurph, phil and boks.
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ABHI'S OP
Ok, let's get this started.
First off, a summary of my defenses which will be up at the start.
Simple shields tank destruction of a planet, tanked a supernova, a pissed off Mephisto, a pissed off Dormammu, even a big bang (confirmed decades later) and even attacks which were ripping entire dimensions aparts. There are just too many such scans so I'm just posting some of the good ones. If need be, I'll post more later.
So forget about breaking Strange's autoshields.
Now, we get to his casted shields. Holds off Dormammu hurling enough force to topple planets, shields from Galactus, shields from Cyttorak in his own realm, Mephisto and Satannish etc. Strange can cast these shields by just a thought.
Umar cleaved through Earth in a microsecond with her spell. Dr Strange moved so fast that time stood still while he overtook her spell meant to kill Clea and had enough time to move around and stop the spell by his own shields.
So that takes care of speed issue. After all, Monica made Thor look like a statue when she moved at the speed of light.
Now, I use a spell to drain all the power from Thornister, just like I did with Arioch, Shuma Gorath and Odinforce Thor to repair mjolnir. I will only drain power, not ego from Thornister.
So in short, Thornister is immobilized, mjolnir is depowered and destroyed, placed in an illusion, has his soul ripped off and banished, his power entirely drained and then blasted to atoms by Strange.
All at the speed of light+speed of thought. Thornister wouldn't even know what hit him.
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BORG's OP
Let’s jump right into this shall we?
The Plan
At the start of the match, I throw up my authoshields, which instantly protect me from elemental, psionic and physical attacks all at once, and I instantly hide myself psychically so well that even Cable can’t detect me. https://imgur.com/Rrooq3O https://imgur.com/v9sau91
Now you’re utterly engulfed in a storm capable of pinning the Hulk or ravaging dimensions.
The storm also allows me to track you: https://imgur.com/oI7Eedi
As I can feel every rain drop falling.
So while you prep and search for me, trying to survive the storm that gives me time to summon my tools: https://imgur.com/WE5ONsq
Which grants me a large portion of the odin force: https://imgur.com/6NDNl2Y
As the last time they were used, they were enchanted to such a degree that allowed Thor to defeat Super enhanced Thanosi. And even before the enhancement this is how tough my armor was: https://imgur.com/8L1O6uk https://imgur.com/08H9mAx https://imgur.com/xqaTFHZ
Next, Mjolnir will track you. So long as Mjolnir has interacted with my target, I can track it anywhere in the universe, this dimension or another: https://imgur.com/hDM53ZM https://imgur.com/zO4aSaU
Thor literally tracked Demonstaff between alternate planes of reality, there’s no way to hide from me. You’ll also be tracked psionically of course, and seeing as there’s only two of us…your location isn’t that much of a mystery really.
And we have interacted many times, I once made Dr. Strange jizz his pants by how beautiful my soul is. https://imgur.com/Z6HHA18
Once you’ve been found, I assume you have your standard defenses up, your powerful shields and whatnot. You’ll be looking for me, but you’ll have to decipher through my psychic block, and get past my own shields first, which will take your attention away, from this: https://imgur.com/ILsRjoM
Since I’ve identified where you are, I create a portal to a black hole right on your location. You’ve made a point of talking about how you can “move at lightspeed” which we’ll talk about soon as it’s incredibly overrated, but this is something even light can’t escape.
The black hole as well as the portal itself will suck you through it to auto death/bfr victory. https://imgur.com/hG9KoNU
Even a standard portal can suck you through it with enough force that Count Nefaria can’t long resist it.
But if you think you can resist, you’ll be surprised to find that your shields have just been turned off: https://imgur.com/sFGkP4P
My dome covers the whole area and traps you in an antimagic zone, your magic has just been sundered. It’s been able to turn off Cytoraks shielding which was tough enough for Juggernaut to no sell a god blast.
Meaning your shields are indisputably shut down, as well as any other magic it would like.
But for good measure, I can add an extra layer of protection to my attack, how about we steal your energy as well: https://imgur.com/mX1lcYm
A little extra power sapping will go a long way, so now you’re being blocked magically and drained physically.
Mjolnir will of course be thrown at the speed of light+ : https://imgur.com/XTyDaIq
But that’s not the worst of it, the second your attention shifted to the portal opening, SinisThor entered your mind, no damage at first, but now you’ll take a 10X psionic blast that was capable of shutting down Nate Grey + X-Force in one shot: https://imgur.com/j7CpVlT https://imgur.com/KTs153A
Nate Grey for reference: https://imgur.com/O70Fb2B
The Fight So Far
So here’s the fight so far: I instantly shield and obscure myself psionically, my gear comes on protecting me from even the most vicious of damage as well as infusing me with the Odin Force, I open up a portal at your exact location as Mjolnir can detect you without much issue since you already shared your energies with me, then my hammer circles your location shutting down your magic as my psychic abilities make you forget how to contain your own bodily functions.
NOTE: I’m SUPER ENHANCED BY THE ODIN FORCE GEAR I JUST PUT ON. EVER FEAT I PERFORM IS POWERED FAR GREATER THAN THE SCANS SHOW. THAT GOES FOR MY PSYCHIC ABILTITIES TOO. https://imgur.com/70zdmy7 https://media1.tenor.com/images/e2a...?itemid=8176906
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PT2
Your draft is Thor’s best day ever
Now let’s talk about how difficult of a fight this was going to be for you from the start.
You drafted living laser. You turned yourself into an energy being.
… https://imgur.com/kJSdYSU
Mjolnir can absorb energy, even from a distance, and even exotic energies like those fired from Hell Lord Pluto.
It can also forcibly suck you dry, whether you like it or not: https://imgur.com/ZwgfWxc
Oddly enough, I did it to a being of living energy much like yourself: https://imgur.com/Fq1QVb6
And you have literally been contained by human machinery: https://imgur.com/bJEwHsh
And that was after he received a substantial boost in power.
But wait, you can move at light speed.
Well first off you’re going to need to think about it: https://imgur.com/caHQOfZ
You weren’t given true light speed movement, only the ability without much to any of the control and that is admitted by your guy and proven by him multiple times as he’s easily caught and evaded by iron man: https://imgur.com/5kxPV0a https://imgur.com/SZiSS6j
Sure he can hit him, but it takes quite a bit of aiming and trying.
So yeah…
It’s just a stretch to automatically assume that spells will now be woven at light speed. Though you can certainly turn into energy form and fly at light speed. Though you’ll be immediately absorbed, as the hammer will always be looking for energy to eat.
Here’s Living Laser after yet another enhancement. He’s basically the juggernaut of Meta’s in the sense that he gets “enhanced” but it never does anything: https://imgur.com/CmmzFxa https://imgur.com/PFpCNDq
Living Laser literally gets his kill blow caught BY THE WRIST by Iron Man.
I’ve yet to see anything suggesting this ridiculous increase to speed you will not doubt mention that isn’t something Dr. Strange could already do on his own. It truly seems like a total misfire to have drafted Laser, because on top of that you’re now weak to EMP’s: https://imgur.com/PFpCNDq
Maybe one like this: https://imgur.com/7Uou7p1
Thor breaks her illusion over the entire Asgardian army with a Mjolnir wave in her own realm no less.
Dr. Strange: https://imgur.com/nENPVzr https://imgur.com/U72U2fC
I can dispel even the crimson bands of Cytorak with a simple lightning blast.
So I’ve got a good history with magic. But since I am facing the Sorcerer Supreme, even with a handicap of living laser…There’s a good chance you’ll try to go intangible or some nonsense.
Thor also does well against a variety of magic:
Here Thor knocks Dracula out of his incorporeal form with his lightning https://imgur.com/zHnJrPM
By heating up his molecules no less, that can’t be dodged.
Here Thor does the same to an energy vampire who stole Hercules’ will, then absorbs his intangible form and shoots it into the sun: https://imgur.com/oR2Yza2 https://imgur.com/rmoZI05
The point I’m trying to make here is that Dr. Strange isn’t going to be safe even if he’s immaterial.
Just ask Vision: https://imgur.com/LHLEQIV
BUT there’s a particular form that will doom Dr. Strange for sure, should he assume Astral form, he’ll be immediately eaten by either the power of Mjolnir: https://imgur.com/zP57c0O
(And I can do Mjolnir even without you in that form)
Or Sinister: https://imgur.com/3pgK5Wy https://imgur.com/VQzGyEF
And I have both
I’m afraid you’re in for a rough time, Abhi old pal.
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because of possible formatting issues, both competitors are allowed to fix any broken links before any rebuttals are made. obviously they do not count against post counts. good luck gents, and have at it!
Okay, you posted about as expected. Nothing there that can’t be dealt with so I’d say that’s a good start. For me, that is.
So to recap for any judges who may not have seen, my move about summoning the gear has been stricken from the match, so please disregard anything that had to both with me using the gear and me summoning the gear. I make the distinction because it’s about to become very important.
In my OP I traded a little bit of time for the boon of placing on highly defensive and offensive increasing gear that Thor has in a pocket dimension. But because that is now a no go, my plan moves forward significantly faster.
So here’s how Abhi described his opener, put up shields, hides, goes for a nullification of Mjolnir, teleport, power drain, gg, etc.
We have very similar openers.
With one fatal difference. You don’t know where I am dude.
I explicitly mentioned that I can track even through dimensions. And being able to hide from Iron Man (lol?) doesn’t mean you can hide from me.
And yes, tracking is important in this tournament:
And it was indeed specified to be 50km distance.
Yet you, acted as if I was there within your reach.
I teleported a black hole onto you, and while you react to that, are immediately circled by a spinning Mjolnir, that breaks your magical energies to such an extent that even shields from Cytorak that can tank a god blast are turned to nothing. All of this happens much quicker now that I am not burdened by having to gear myself.
So with you ignoring how exactly you’re going to find me, that guarantees my initial phase to work, your magic has been stripped from you and your atoms have been torn apart by the black hole or by my storm which is striking with such ferocity that it affects between dimensions. https://imgur.com/I4wWnMo
The constant raining lightning has kept even high end magicians like Malekeith from assuming intangibility, posted again for emphasis: https://imgur.com/UtqNZDc https://imgur.com/qHAnp8T The Dangers of Spinning Mjolnir
Have Mjolnir spin around you really is a bad deal by the way. I chose to nullify your magic and sap your strength: https://imgur.com/sFGkP4P https://imgur.com/mX1lcYm
but it can do other things to you also: https://imgur.com/Z50rgO4
Note it went far greater than light, and I’m already throwing it light speed plus. Once again, your own scans really do show how irrelevant Living Laser was a choice. Worse than irrelevant really when you can now be absorbed and hurt by EMP’s.
It can also do this: https://imgur.com/k6aCULx https://imgur.com/7xXgmxK
That was the real honest to goodness Ymir, about the same level as Surtur and Thor banished him with a whirlwind, the same kind of whirlwind raging around you.
So true, I picked the magic cancellation because it will knock out your magic long enough for me to kill you, but I’ve got a lot of variety I can switch up with a thought if I feel like it.
One more: https://imgur.com/D8PSw6q
I can completely phase you out of reality. In such a way for an auto win/bfr as well.
And of course, there’s no escaping heat seeking Mjolnir: https://imgur.com/sI86gU1
Detects and dispels Mephisto’s illusions in his own domain. Let’s talk intangibility
I’d need some hard proof of Strange being able to cast spells of such a caliber while intangible. Otherwise, it’s common sense that you need to materialize in order to use your abilities.
Unless you’re talking about using your astral form, which is different standard intangibility, wasn’t specified and leaves your body quite vulnerable.
- Namor’s will alone was enough to rock Strange into an unconscious state.
2. You can be hurt by Asgardian artifacts.
- The Bloodaxe is a far weaker artifact than Mjolnir, and you took blast damage from it no less.
: https://imgur.com/Wqu2vkj
NOTE: Dr. Strange admits that that form is quite difficult for him to maintain:
- https://imgur.com/LWHHwI3
3. You would leave your physical body quite vulnerable. Since astral form is projecting out of your body, it leave it where it was, vulnerable to me.
So you would need to produce something that shows you cannot only cast the sheer variety of spells that you produced, but casually and intangible? I don’t think so. Next,
Living Laser intangibility…
Once again, you are an energy creature. The way someone we all know and love is: https://imgur.com/Fq1QVb6
That is exactly what will happen to you, and I can do it even without Mjolnir in hand.
I’m not kidding, living laser was a handicap.
And ontop of that, Thor has multiple instances of striking the intangible: https://imgur.com/dZIHxJF
So you think you can take Mjolnir…
Your chances of encasing Mjolnir in anything are less than nothing. There’s no point in this match where Mjolnir is going less than multiple times the speed of light.
Even Silver Surfer can’t catch it: https://imgur.com/hoqbbJS
Innumerable times the speed of light at that point, and it was only returning to my hand.
Also hardee har har. You’re going to throw it into the sun and destroy it eh? First off, Mjolnir can teleport back to my hand: https://imgur.com/z8IN2To https://imgur.com/5IWSd2I
This isn’t a comic, you’re not separating me from Mjolnir.
Though you may want to reconsider weakening the magic around Mjolnir or trying to destroy it. (not that you could ) because if you want to use Jason Aaron so badly, then this is the next step: https://imgur.com/fxyKRXd https://imgur.com/DFE5cIL
The mother storm is released and I absorb it, bringing all of its power into myself. But feel free to tamper with Mjolnir You’re not that fast…
So to reiterate, you’ve made a big deal about being so quick that you can lightspeed weave spells because of Living Laser.
You’re lying to yourself.
Living Laser does not have a single light speed combat showing. I understand the intent behind his speed, but he has always been only relatively faster than iron man, and he’s been evaded, blasted, trapped, absorbed and beaten regularly, all while still having his “lightspeed”, which was never upgraded, only his power was: https://imgur.com/6sJFqGg
Not speed.
Even at his strongest: https://imgur.com/uL1l3CZ
Can’t outreact Ironman https://imgur.com/PFpCNDq
Once again, fail. I posted more example in my previous post and will do so again in the next. You did not do yourself any favors drafting Living Loser. Things you said that won’t hurt me but may tickle me
Moving on, you brought up the point that because you blasted the Hulk that it would do me harm eh?
You’re not fighting hero SinisThor. You’re fighting SinisThor, God of Thunder.
First off, I have shields on all the time: https://imgur.com/Rrooq3O
Even personalized ones: https://imgur.com/y9qWGou
https://imgur.com/mXKZZNK
Thor overpowers the influence of Morgana le Fay’s spell, and that a spell that overtook the entirety of the Avengers, even gods like Hercules: https://imgur.com/90KzPEs
She was of course, amped by the Twilight sword. Which for reference to whoever isn’t aware of the power of the twilight sword: https://imgur.com/phz9SdW
once again Thor deals with the twilight sword’s magics, this time held by Hela: https://imgur.com/20UsNL0 https://imgur.com/M4nIlrX
So I don’t know how many scans of Thor doing well against magic I need to keep posting, but his history is quite extensive.
So quick recap, you missed your opening strike, because you assumed I’d be within visible distance, you got a black hole teleported on you, you got your shields shut off, your magics have counters to them, Mjolnir can instantly teleport to my hand should I need it to, and I am impossible to put down. Neither mentally or physically, while I can attack you physically, and spiritually.
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CDB's VOTE
First of all, I never understand the draft of Living Laser. There are literally a ton of much better speedsters in meta tier, ones with actual good COMBAT SPEED/reflexes feats. Living Laser... if you hype him up, you may as well give FTL reflexes to Iron Man, which is BS.
So, I don't believe that increased travel speed will translate to increased combat speed.
Second, while Abhi threw everything and the kitchen sink regarding the feats of Strange, he gave no proof of hiding from Mjolnir guided attack, which at 50 km distance may prove fatal. Had he a speedster like Northstar with actual reflexes/thinking feats, he could have had a chance. As of now, his only proof of increased thinking speed... is the scan of Strange himself. And then the question is WTF Living Laser contributes to other than extra vulnerabulities?
Third, the route of attacks of Damborgson was much more suited to the opening distance, and so...
Damborgson is the winner of the match. Sorry, darling, and I wish the best to you regarding your recovery, but Living Laser was a plain handicap, that contributed literally nothing.
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BOK's VOTE
Short and sweet.
Much of Abhi's strategy relies on using the speed of light of living Laser to make Strange's spells faster. Borg skilfully undermined this with a scan of LL himslef thinking contrary to his statement of light speed. This takes away the quick draw for Abhi completely. In essense it leaves him with only Strange vs Borgs amalgam and a weakened strange at that (as Borg showed how an energy form made for an easy opponent.
Sinister I find a good merge with Thor as it removes most od the CIS that costs Thor victories in forums. The usual arguments that Thor doesnt use his esoteric abilities because of being a noble warrior fly out the wìndow.
Put simply here Borg clearly showed his amalgam could cut off Strange's magic AND absorb LL.
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LEO's VOTE
i'll add my vote since the other judges have become tied up for the moment....
i don't have much to add to what boks and cdb have already said. maybe with another couple posts abhi could have countered some of the negative living laser stuff, but in this match in particular he def seemed more a hindrance than an asset. if he had some clear combat and thinking speed feats that would MAYBE have been difference but an energy being vs the hammer? that almost never ends well. too many plausible defenses for the hammer. the hammer is also legendary against magic. again, with more posts maybe abhi could have poked wholes in borg's offense and defense (i did find that borg once again used a little bit of the kitchen sink approach for offense and defense and could maybe have tried a less....scattery approach? lol) but amply showed magical defenses and options and we've seen how well sinister shores up his mental defenses.
in short, i didn't think abhi was fast enough to pull off what he wanted to, nor was i convinced a lot of his magic would work against a proven magic countering plot device. decision BORG
well done and thanks to all who took part. this did not run as smoothly as i would have liked but for those who did their part, a big thanks. i'll remember for the future tourneys.
The shield will dissipate once I trap mjolnir into anti magic sphere.
Rain cant touch me as I am immaterial.
Not only this is illegal as stated by Leo in the rule as artifact summoning is banned, these items were destroyed by Thanosi in the battle so there is no chance for you to even summon it.
You should concenrate on how you are getting mjolnir back from the anti magic sphere I trapped it in and sent to the other end of the universe.
Ha, trying to BFR Strange is literally impossible. Even when Nebula with IG wished that the universe reset back to 24 hours back and Strange moved to Earth, Dr Strange stopped that with a simple gesture for himself, Silver Surfer and Adam Warlock.
And that area will have only illusion as mjolnir can only create anti magic zone in a certain area and you will have thrown mjolnir just to get it trapped in a anti magic sphere.
Then its a good thing that I can destroy tech that destroyed every bit of magic in entire earth and defeated the likes of Dormammu and Shuma Gorath.
That monster Mr Misery was created by Strange's own pain and is entirely his own power.
This is just out of context as Sinister had created a backdoor in Nate mind through which he attacked Nate. And he re-channeled psychic energy which is not an option here.
Thor storms cant do anything here as I would already be intangible and none of these losers have remotely any feats nearing Strange. I mean Lorelei? Come on.
You bring Hela, I give you Dormammu with Eternity power getting fooled by Strange.
That would work only if you gets the chance to throw it, You dont as I am far faster than you and it will be trapped before you even have a chance to think about it.
Again if Nebula with IG could not remove Strange, forget about Thor.
And I need hard proof of Thor able to do so many things with mjolnir at once. Mjolnir did not even moved zig zag for Thor, let alone multitask like this.
Just like Thor never able to multitask so much but here we are.
See Darkoth.
Not if its encased in anti magic field as already shown.
That was because Mother Storm was trying to resurrect Jane and not because Thor absorbed it on all his own. Here, there is no such thing happening.
CIS is removed from the match, I control the character. Unless you want to argue Thor can move at lightspeed, he is far too slow to compete with my speed.
Ha, to Dr Strange? Strange has straight up oneshotted Hulk.
So to recap, mjolnir is trapped and flung into sun before you can even blink, your mind trapped in an illusion, your body destroyed by my blasts and I will scatter your soul to different dimensions.
It has worked on the like of Silver Surfer, Hulk and Dormammu.
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borg's final post
Here’s the last post:
Pre message: Abhi it was already established I couldn’t summon my tools after you cried foul, no need to
bring that up again. What you did do however is free up a lot of time for me in the plan, as time that would
have been spent equipping them was now spent barraging you. How’s that for shooting yourself in the foot? Abhi Says I’m Not providing Proof…lol
Claims that he can go through his 30 step plan while entirely immaterial. Doesn’t post a single scan of him
doing anything while in that state.
And when asked about how he intends to prove it, he said:
“And I need hard proof of Thor able to do so many things with mjolnir at once. Mjolnir did not even moved zig
zag for Thor, let alone multitask like this.
/img/19c700b8e1d9dcf11e880d9efb9ae12c.jpg”
Here you go Abhi: https://imgur.com/19rzcrk https://imgur.com/If56DEJ
Mjolnir zig zagging. Aaron’s a moron. Don’t mind him in anything after Jane Thor.
I also gave proof that my shields stay on even without my concentration: https://imgur.com/wwREGGk https://imgur.com/9pLlbws
My storms are also able to stay up without need of me to concentrate, even on a world where the
atmosphere has been destroyed by Gorr and without Mjolnir: https://imgur.com/6YegHkW
But you’re getting hit by way more than just a storm, it’s one that can be felt across dimensions: https://imgur.com/I4wWnMo
All of this is sustainable without much intervention at all on my part, as seen by the scans I posted.
Creating a portal above you is a simple matter: https://imgur.com/ILsRjoM
as you were traced both by my storm and by mighty Mjolnir: https://imgur.com/hDM53ZM https://imgur.com/zO4aSaU https://imgur.com/oI7Eedi
On top of that, I have the powerful mind of Mr. Sinister, not just Thor’s. https://i.imgur.com/d4evMqy.jpg
One of the top 5 telepaths in Marvel U
You don’t get to hide, put that out of your head. Mjolnir can track across dimensions with the barest whif of
energy, and you’ve already been exposed to it so I instantly find you.
Which leads me to my next point…. YOU ALREADY EFFED UP SINCE THE VERY FIRST MOVE
You didn’t look for me bud. And you explicitly have to prove you can find a telepathically masked, storm
hidden thunder God. That guarantees that my plan goes off first, and you know what that means right?
[Spoiler] you lose [/B]
My anti magic shell can depower your shields as well as all other magic, and they are impressive, I agree,
but they’re not quite at the level you’d like everyone to think, because otherwise you wouldn’t have misled in
some of your scans:
Dormammu overwhelmed Strange: https://imgur.com/27SuFXD
Cytorrak cracked his shields on the next page: https://imgur.com/FpyWIhH
And he only stopped a blast from a bored Galactus as the scan says, very minimum effort: https://imgur.com/jzgH6bO
I like that you’re using insanely high end feats for Dr. Strange though. Mind if I cut in?
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Thor damages Chaos King who had absorbed over 98% of the multiverse. Block that. (please log in to view the image) SO MY ATTACK WILL WORK GUARANTEED because my attacks went off first, since I actually looked
for you.
And that means, shields off, which means my storms rip you to pieces, or my portal, or Mjolnir simply eats
you, as it can absorb energy even without me consciously commanding it: https://imgur.com/3iukbHh
or here when even away from my hand it can absorb hell lord energies like drinking juice: https://imgur.com/kJSdYSU
Notice they were strong enough to paralyze Hercules, but it doesn’t matter much when you have Mjolnir.
Also Lol at any notion that you’re touching Mjolnir. https://imgur.com/VGmnRC4
Silver Surfer can’t catch it when it’s flying, neither can you.
Even when I barely release it from a short distance, I can shoot Mjolnir at light speed: (please log in to view the image)
And obviously I can throw it much, much faster. Seeing as how Thor throws it to fly, and he’s literally thrown
it at speeds where stars streak by beside him: https://imgur.com/nLTdall How Easy Do You Think It is To Mess With SinisThor?
Abhi, at some point you seem to have believed your own nonsense. You think because Thor was made to
believe that Strange was dead at one point, that that means he can do it during combat? Thor didn’t have
any reason to fight through it.
Here’s some examples of people who have tried:
Thor dispels Hela’s magic over the entire Asgardian Army with a single hammer swing in her own realm: https://imgur.com/rXiY9QR
Thor beats back the influence of Morgana Le Fay, who was empowered by the Twilight Sword. https://imgur.com/mXKZZNK
Thor dispels illusions from Mephisto himself in his own realm: https://imgur.com/sI86gU1
etc. I already posted a lot more examples, which were just glossed over because they didn’t have proper
counters.
You’re not trapping me in anything.
But by all means, try stepping into my mind: https://imgur.com/j7CpVlT https://imgur.com/KTs153A
You’ll go the way of Nate Grey and X Factor. Tangent
Also good luck hurting someone with a stacked durability of Thor + molecular control of Mr. S https://imgur.com/X3VH4go https://imgur.com/i95Phpc https://imgur.com/MBrvIiM
Ontop of the durability of Thor which literally lets him resist Celesials. Not just the 4
th host, but the One
Above All as well.
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[/B] Tangent Over [/B]
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The smugness with which you posted Thor’s lower end speed feats that I myself used in a different BZ under
different context warms my heart.
Because they’re completely useless. This isn’t just Thor, he’s mixed with Sinister, and I’m going to show you
the error of your ways in just a moment.
In Living Lasers entire career, you have about one good showing, his fight with Quasar.
Did you know, that Thor has also fought Quasar?
Did you know he reacted to his light speed blasts just the same as LL did? https://imgur.com/IfphzxW
And that was Masterson Thor, a slower, weaker, less experienced Thor.
Yes he still blocked “light speed” attacks.
But it gets better. Since you’ve been disregarding Sinister, you should know that he gave Thor quite a gift.
Some pretty major light speed reflexes
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Cyclops’ optic blasts are stated multiple times to be light speed.
And Sinister: (please log in to view the image)
Guess light speed isn’t such a big deal now, eh? Good thing Mjolnir has no such limits. Living Laser is hot garbage and I find it hilarious
So now that we’ve talked about how Living Laser is in literally his highest showing ever, let’s talk about what
he’s actually like lol.
Blitzed by Captain America: https://imgur.com/h3bfBXR
Cap again: https://imgur.com/qKCAvaa
Cap again, plus gets blitzed by the wasp: https://imgur.com/H6aBs7R
Blitzed by black panther: https://imgur.com/ZkeBauy
gets jumped by Scarlet Witch: https://imgur.com/cGhBqPw
Upgrade:
Gets reacted to by Bucky Barnes: https://imgur.com/QHOYz1d
Gets shot by a regular hand gun and can’t dodge it https://imgur.com/hEP0pg9 https://imgur.com/SVMKxkz
Guns again and gets reacted to by Bucky again: https://imgur.com/rSAYP4Q
Blitzed by Luke Cage: https://imgur.com/Pp1LM15 https://imgur.com/03fTu4U
Gets POINT BLANK evaded by Mocking Bird and Spider Woman: https://imgur.com/d6uKzx0
reacted to by classic Iron Man: https://imgur.com/GnizU5X
Captured by Classic Iron Man: https://imgur.com/SZiSS6j
After it’s made clear that he’s not actually light speed: https://imgur.com/caHQOfZ
Upgrade again: Still can’t avoid Iron Man https://imgur.com/uL1l3CZ
Caught by the wrist and then one shot by an EMP by Iron Man https://imgur.com/PFpCNDq
An EMP Abhi…gee, I wonder who can do that.
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And on top of that, your body is now made of energy, which I can suck dry The finishing Touches
Abhi seems to think that he can turn completely intangible and still attack me with everything he mentioned,
and he uses Thor struggling to attack Darkoth as an example because Darkoth was intangible. Yet no
examples from Strange.
What he doesn’t tell you is that every time Darkoth attacked, he turned tangible. (please log in to view the image)
And then he posted no evidence of high levels of magic being performed outside of astral form. So how is this indication of anything ? Especially when one considers that it’s magic and Strange is
wrapped in an anti magic dome. That means the intangibility goes the way of the shields.
BUT. As a finishing touch. Thor has defeated the intangible before. (I already posted a lot of examples but
why not one more? ) https://imgur.com/purXdMM https://imgur.com/tyWglvY https://imgur.com/gfgdper (please log in to view the image)
Thor fights and defeats Umar in her own realm, and knocks her out of spirit form. You can tell me how many
spirit forms are meant to be tangible.
P.S. Strange didn’t beat Thor here: https://imgur.com/TDEwnym
He was just fine a page later: https://imgur.com/QBEFYMC
Way to lie though
Alrighty, I have received 2/3 votes, but based on those a winner can be decided...
Supermutant's vote:
Supermutant Notes:
Abhi relies on the Living Laser’s speed to get off lightspeed magical spells, specifically a spell of magical nullification around Mjolnir. He smartly relies the damage that mjlonir can do his amalgam. Damborgson uses Mjolnir at ftl speed to energy absorb and produce a nullification sphere of magic. Interesting how both combatants wished to use magical nullification on the other. Solid plans from both, so let’s look at the execution.
Both begins with shields, and they start at random locations on Mars. I didn’t read where Abhi would track his opponent in his OP, but he did mentioned using magic and the eye of agamotto to track in his second post. But he didn’t show much evidence of how that would work here. Damborgson stated that Sinisthor was going to use a storm and mjlonir to track his opponent and provided evidence of such. Therefore, according to the OPs, Damborgson will get off the first attack. And Mjolnir is much faster than Living Laser plus Living Laser has struggled to utilize his speed effectively in battle. There’s not much to prevent Living Laser from being completely absorbed by the hammer.
Neither combatant will be able to do everything they hoped for. But, In the end, Abhi was really fighting 3 opponents with Mjolnir being the fastest here by far, and extremely powerful. Moreover I’m persuaded that Sinisthor will make short work of the Living Laser part of Dr. Strangelaser by absorbing him via the hammer. Which made this in essence a three on one, and a losing battle for Dr Strange. Damborgson had the most powerful amalgam in this tourney, and used him effectively. This was just a bad matchup for Abhi going up against two herald level characters really plus an energy absorbing magical countering weapon.
Winner: Damborgson
Bentley's vote:
First of all gentlemen let me congratulate you both on a fine debate. Honestly in very few battlezones I've seen each character this well represented, it was a pretty fun read.
Amalgam
Both debaters mostly worked off the main powerset of their amalgams. I believe that Abhi's intend of speeding up his ability using the Living Laser was a better strategy over-all but for this specific MU I feel he also brought an energy weakness that wasn't needed. Mr. Sinister is a very powerful character in his own right but the incredible durability buff is most likely moot due to Strange's flexibility. He at least adds some mental cloaking.
So I can't say I was all that impressed by the combos and how they were used because of MU reasons.
Abhi 0 - Damborg 0
No points guy
Plan
Abhi's plan was pretty logical, get rid of Mjolnir quick and use speed to dominate Thor with superior reflexes. But for me he truly ran into troubles with the starting distance and the Living Laser's dubious speed. Proving his shields were able to fend off Mjolnir was good thinking but the Hammer did not come directly at him.
Dambo's plan in the other hand was all kinds of terrible. Going against a presumed speedster and then taking his sweet time to summon magical items… But hey, it was ruled illegal so I cannot technically rule on that particular terrible choice. The rest of the strategy was pretty spot on though: mjolnir can spin stupid fast, has great tracking abilities and can nullify magic. I think the storm adding to the confusion and the black hole sneak attacks were neat ideas.
Abhi 1 - Dambo 1
Talk about getting saved by the rules
Debating
Well, it often comes down to this isn't it?
I think Abhi established Thor is not ligthning fast (pun intended), he did provide decent feats for his autoshields and his overall magic skills. He also made telepathy mostly irrelevant rather quick. I wish he focused a bit more on how to turn the distance into an advantage, instead he focused on proving that the Living Laser was a legitimate speedster, but sadly I was not fully convinced he was.
Dambo attacked the critical points that could've made Abhi succeed: Living Laser speed, the possibility to get the plan going off immediately, the sheer speed Mjolnir reaches once it's launched. Being this laser focused (pun intended again) was a good way to display his plan as the most likely outcome for the battle.
So with all done and said, my vote goes for:
Abhi 1 - Dambo 2
Damborgson has this for me. It all came down to the magical items being ignored and the Living Laser for me, these two things somewhat ended up in his favor which would've spelled his doom if things were differently.
Damborgson wins
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Last edited by Galan007 on Mar 24th, 2019 at 10:31 AM