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!!!!!!!!!!!! Beatboks vs Leo vs Bentley [Spring Tourney Semi Final Spot] !!!!!!!!!!!!
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!!!!!!!!!!!! Beatboks vs Leo vs Bentley [Spring Tourney Semi Final Spot] !!!!!!!!!!!!

The final spot for the semi-finals is on the line!

Beatboks
Composite Hulk [i.e. Savage, Professor, Grey, Green Scar etc. minus Immortal Hulk and WBH]

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Leo
He-Man [composite comics + the 2002 animated series] and She-Hulk [Classic]

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Bentley
Mirror Master and Superboy [Kon-El]

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Rules:
- no bfr
- no prep
- 0.5 km starting distance
- battlefield = normal Earth that regenerates [i.e. can't be permanently destroyed]

Location: New York

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- 1 post for each person


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Beatboks opening post:

quote:
OK here goes nothing.

So we have to present a case for how we can win in a three way battle.

A more pertinent question true believers might be how can I possibly loose.

I mean seriously Hulk has durability miles beyond the combined damage output of all my adversaries combined IF THEY HAD help. They could have duplicated themselves a few times over and still combined lack the damage ouput to put Hulk down or incapacitate him

He can tank attacks that one shot Namor and Dr Strange (and realistically none of my adversaries have the ability to one Shot Namor)
https://ibb.co/Ntf60wM
https://ibb.co/VVKtS44

A dimensionally amped Thanosi can’t put Hulk down for a 10 count
https://i388.photobucket.com/albums...kAnnual1998.jpg

https://i388.photobucket.com/albums...kvsThanos10.jpg

The planetary destruction of Sakaar couln’t so much as incapacitate, Ko or slow him down.
https://ibb.co/197G2XN
https://ibb.co/M8DmspN
https://ibb.co/kyj52SY
https://ibb.co/dsTLFg4

Literally nothing my adversaries are capable of can defeat Hulk. Remember there is no BFR, so to defeat hulk they have to KO, kill or incapacitate. Hulk has literally had his body stripped to bones and kept walking until regenerated. https://ibb.co/QcpPnSf

Battle plan

This is real simple, I will open up by putting my foot down (as it were)
https://ibb.co/2sn6V4C
Notice the dust all over the place (not to mention the damage) from his stomping his foot? All reflective surfaces will be covered in dust seconds into the battle. Not to mention all water surfaces within a city radius will ripple with the vibrations and no longer give reflections

Followed by three of hulks most powerful thunder claps all in very quick succession in different directions to cover 360 degrees.These thunder claps can incapacitate mid heralds as well as destroy mid herald weapons blocks away
https://ibb.co/d5HzbSB
Can shatter tanks
https://ibb.co/Pj9k87c
Glass and mirrors will all be atomized by this opening salvo (considering it tears tanks to shred).

This will be followed by Pounding the ground a few times at full force. Force that can destroy a city, such blows have also been felt in Denmark from colorado
https://ibb.co/FxCNsxS
Followed by a couple more Thunder claps. Aside from denying Mirror master access to (or out of) the Mirror Dimension anymore it will also knock any of my adversaries in the air out if it and any on the ground off their feet.

Now if Mirror master didn’t enter the mirror dimension before the dust storm he is locked in the normal world and easy prey that the Hulk will smash. If he did he is now stuck there until I finish with the rest of my adversaries (I’ll get to that later).

This is likely where Bentley will say that he would turn Hulk into Glass (if he has even anticipated this move). Unfortunately for him Hulk resists such transmutation easily
https://ibb.co/wJQ46hM
It didn’t work then and wont now.

Hulk of course can manipulate gamma energy, how unfortunate for poor old Leo.
https://ibb.co/PMkWn97
So the Hulk giveth (injection of his blood into his cousin gave her powers when he used it to save her) and the Hulk taketh away. That is he will absorb all the gamma radiation that is in She-hulk and drain her. Then he crushes his cousin.

Now we have Superboy left for Bentley and He-man for Leo. Superboy relies on his tactile TK for his “invulnerability” TK shielding didn’t do much for Nate Grey vs Hulk
https://beatboks.imgbb.com/
And won’t here. Just how much stronger than Superboy’s tactile TK is Nate Grey? He’s in a whole other ball park.

Leo probably has something planned with the sword of Greyskull. It has so much magical power after all and can be used for far more than just a pick sticker. It can absorb and blast electricity, create sonic blasts, and one one occasion even create a shield. It doesn’t however have as much magical power as the Sorcerer supreme of Marvel. Dr’ Strange’s powerful shields can’t stop the Hulk
https://ibb.co/wg12xqc
https://ibb.co/BBmrQ7T
Niether will any that He-man comes up with.
So essentially I have two strong opponents left on the field of battle and combined they might be able to equal my strength (if they worked together). the thing with Hulk is as the battle goes on he just gets stronger as he get’s madder. Bottom line eventually he will easily overpower them both.

Now IF Mirror master entered the Mirror Dimension, he is unable to get to me as the only reflective surfaces are too far away. I will head to a nearby electronics store where I will get what I need to piece together an electro-magnetic weapon. In case there is any doubt there is already proof that such a thing will shut down MM’s gear

https://ibb.co/z4DN4j0
If Mark Shaw/Manhunter can shut down MM’s gear with his magnetic baton, I have no doubt that smart Hulk with Banner’s brains can make something that can achieve the same. I then proceed to head toward the edge of the zone that I destroyed all reflective surfaces and repeat my foot stomp/thunderclap x 3/ smash and thunderclap again to expand the area affected. Should I come across any shiny admantium surfaces they will get the hulk treatment as well

https://i.stack.imgur.com/Xu9VP.jpg
I slowly increase this area across the globe until only a small town has reflective surfaces remaining.As this will now be the only place with access to the mirror dimension on the globe I use the magnetic weapon to fuse MM’s gear via the handfull of remaining mirrors eliminating/incapacitating my final adversary.


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Leo's post:

quote:
3-Way Clash of Titans!!1!

I LOVE THIS BATTLE!! LOL!!

On one side, the HULK. On the other MIRROR MASTER and SUPERBOY. And on my side: SHE-HULK and HE-MAN and BATTLE CAT! That’s a LOT of power packed into a small space. However can this type of match be decided??

Well, for my part, my plan relies upon me actually making one of my characters WEAKER! Lol

WUT?! What does that mean?? Well, for the purposes of this fight, I will be having HE-MAN appear on the battlefield as his alter-ego, PRINCE ADAM! LOL

What the hell madness is this, you say?? Worry not, for...

I HAVE THE PLAN!!!!!!!!!!!! (man, I hope someone gets what I did there...lol)

We arrive on the BF and...

1. Prince Adam....STOPS TIME!

He’s done this twice in canon:

https://imgur.com/a/YDgSZgM

and:

https://imgur.com/a/K95vYYw

The first time happened when he was 10. You can see the effect was localized (though still wide enough to freeze the entire battlefield all around him—note man-at-arms and the attacking beastman, both frozen), while the second time, the effect was VAST. You see the time stop take effect on Skeletor as he is cut off in mid-sentence in the second scan. That, btw, was the DEATH INCARNATE version of Skeletor. He’d become the universal (hinted at multiversal) embodiment of DEATH. He was at LEAST a universal level being at that point, and that is in no way at all hyperbole. Check out Masters of the Universe ETERNITY WAR for confirmation. thumb up

So, the moment we appear, time everywhere STOPS.

You will notice in the second scans that Adam was EXTREMELY weak. In fact, he was DYING when he performed the feat. Note too, the sword played no role in it. He didn’t even have the sword the first time, and the second time the sword had been shattered by He-Man in one of his greatest strength feats:

https://imgur.com/a/5nqV1Kq

You’ll also notice that the second time he did it, the dying Adam STILL stopped time long enough to make a very LONG journey from the forest where he stopped time, to Castle Greyskull, where he doused the flames, reforged the sword, and transformed back into He-Man.

Fortunately, this time he is fully healthy and has the COMPLETE SWORD OF POWER. The magical sword is made of ETERNIUM—think the He-Man version of adamantium but WAYYYYY more powerful—and will cut anything.

[color=red=As the only one capable of moving in the time stop, Adam will immediately cut down the frozen Mirror Master. He will also take out Superboy, if he is able to do so. Next, he takes up a place BEHIND HULK, then transforms into HE-MAN.

As per the comic, my transformation will break the time stop. As soon as time resumes I simply behead the Hulk from behind.[/color]

As a reference for the kind of power we’re talking, I refer you to this video (pick up around 17:11):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO1...nnel=Darkchylde

Serpos was an ancient god of Eternia. Powerful enough to overcome the sorceress IN Greyskull. The final battle between Serpos and He-Man is pretty awesome. Lol You can see the blade’s cutting power clearly. Caught unawares, Hulk will have no chance to defend himself from the attack.

RIP HULK.

Once time resumes:

2. Jen and Battle Cat will either leap after Superboy, (if Adam didn’t kill him) while I call down a massive lightning storm:

https://imgur.com/a/BDo27hD

or if he is flying, she will blast him herself with her gamma energy:

https://imgur.com/a/NQsV3z0

If he’s still a pain, we can combine our powers:

https://imgur.com/a/2icQkUo

And yes, He-Man’s sword can blast energy:

https://imgur.com/a/wc81acA

Between She-Hulk, Battle Cat and myself, it’s just a matter of time before we take Superboy out. Battle Cat has some pretty massive speed, btw:

https://imgur.com/a/BPHlIjq

and is HELLA TOUGH:

https://imgur.com/a/n7SgtiU

That’s Martian Manhunter he’s keeping busy, and you can see he gets in a pretty good shot on Jonn.

And that’s a wrap. To recap:

1. We arrive and Adam stops time.
2. Only Adam can move during the time stop, so he takes out Mirror Master and Superboy (if he can).
3. As soon as Adam has done what he can against MM and SB, Adam sets up behind Hulk and changes into He-Man. Time resumes and He-Man beheads poor, unsuspecting Hulk.
4. As soon as time begins, Jen attacks Superboy, if he is around. She can leap after him, or blast him. If she catches him, her touch alone can harm him:

https://imgur.com/a/jRQ4XBH

Notice she melted Ulik’s weapon by touching it, and of course notice that she absolutely TROUNCED ULIK. The same ulik who has given classic Thor hell in the past. Her touch also harmed Orka. This She-Hulk is CONSIDERABLY more powerful, in all ways, than the classic version. And we could always combine our powers to take him out.

OTHER POSSIBILITIES

These 3-way, one post events are tough to judge. So many possibilities. I’ve no doubt Bentley will try and show some sort of speed feats for MM and say he can escape into mirror world before I can stop time or something. (If he elects to stay on the BF that would be AWESOME—he’d be trapped in the time stop for certain....) To support his speed, Bentley will show him escaping before a Flash catches him. But judges, PLEASE—like the forum, this is a ZERO PIS ZONE! If, as the forum rule states, Flash fights in comics are PIS, then any villain seen as escaping or out-reacting Flash is, by definition ALSO PIS.

Mirror Master is just a guy with some uber cool abilities. When a speedster is serious, he gets wrecked:

https://imgur.com/a/UEdtjk6

and forget speedsters:

https://imgur.com/a/16nMAHf

There are many other scans to offset the PIS scans where he may appear to out-react a Flash. And that is NOT low-balling. Again, the FORUM dictates Flash fights are PIS, not me. IOW: No way MM escapes before I stop time. Speed feats for Prince Adam are hard to find, but there is THIS one to show he has faster than human reaction times:

https://www.he-man.org/publishing/i...amp;image=21937

It would also be awesome if Bentley tries to attack me through the reflection in my sword at some point. At the start of the battle, it’s sheathed as I stop time, and when I draw it, it’s ringed with magic, so if he tried to attack through it, it’d probably kill him since he’s just a simple human. Lol In battle it can emit both huge, AOE type power:

https://justpaste.it/img/8b68392214...f3c969889bb.jpg

or lightning, at will:

https://justpaste.it/img/8b24067b54...31a39712fee.jpg

He-Man himself can emit a massive AOE attack as well:

https://justpaste.it/img/8b68392214...f3c969889bb.jpg

And because I have a little time, here are a couple of feats of strength for He-Man:

https://imgur.com/a/XGM0m7C

Here he holds off Injustice Lobo/Grundy/Grodd and others alone:

https://imgur.com/a/Qyy1juT

And here he catches a MASSIVE ship that supergirl could not stop:

https://imgur.com/a/ckhrRrP

He’s also pretty fast:

https://old.he-man.org/primary_sect...740/03-04.shtml

https://www.he-man.org/publishing/i...&image=3345

LOL But still, fast hands...and here again:

https://justpaste.it/img/9e98367e84...a6e1e6470ae.jpg

And durable:

https://imgur.com/a/VDafRuV

And that’s about it. Pretty simple, overall. Thanks to the judges for following along and weighing in on this one. thumb up


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Bentley's post:

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So after saying my goodbyes to Wendigo and Fin Fang Foom I got two utterly versatile characters in Mirror Master and Superboy, on top of that my opponents are carrying rather straightforward characters with some weird side magic abilities. This is a very good match up so here is hoping I don't throw it.

Kon El in a pinch: he's fast. How fast? Enough to circle the world in less than a few minutes.

https://imgur.com/joBz9vB

He has stated himself to be faster than a speeding bullet. Has caught up with misiles, arrows and the like. Bottomline he's by far the fastest character in the thread.

As we all know he's a powerhouse and managed to hang with Prime for a while. I don't intend to fight Hulk and He-Man straight up but this should dispel the notion that a stray hit would put me down.

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Mirror Master is a casual teleporter, the enemy is not getting the jump on him: https://imgur.com/rByciBg

So my mobility is absolute, I can engage and disengage my opponents at my leisure with the whole planet as my playfield while they are pretty much sitting ducks. They have no way to enter the mirror world either so they are really pretty screwed.

As soon as the battle starts Mirror Master teleports into the mirror world and Conner zips away to a safe distance. I will then produce some illusions to keep my opponents from teaming up, faking my presence in the battlefield and making them think they are hostile to each other. For this I'll use the light from satellites:

https://imgur.com/hDvpXGL

https://imgur.com/sUmQOkX

I'll add mirror constructs in the form of Conner and Mirror Master to make this all more believable:

https://imgur.com/tRAOUAa

There are a bunch of windows in New York city so making a small army will take no time:

https://imgur.com/xDu6g58

And these constructs are a thread, once they are shattered they became an entity capable of mirroring Flash's speed:

https://imgur.com/nJ0JiWW

So why not mirror Hulk's strength?

To this very real attack I can add blasts of heat vision and freezing breath.

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As we all know Mirror Master has a long history of using ice as a reflecting surface for his attacks. At any point a frozed ground can become a gateway and suck up my opponents into a mirror dimension if needeed.

Do you know that trick that kills an opponent if the mirror they are in gets broken?

https://imgur.com/9s1IVE9

That's litterally always an option. If that feels too anticlimactic I can also chop them into pieces in a mid teleport:

https://imgur.com/OktIe8G

So let me make it clear: the opponents can't ever hope to touch me and if I so much as blow at them they die.

But this is a Bentley match, you came here for an absolutely ridiculous and unwarranted tactic and that's what you are going to get.

While the fight is in full chaos Mirror Master will go to an adjacent continent and prepare a huge mirror room, think this one but ludicrously bigger:

https://imgur.com/WP9PBqg

If they try to hit it then their punches are just getting reflected at them (think of having their arm aiming at their faces just like MM's is coming out of the mirror here):

https://imgur.com/nQ0CUXC

The room will be invisible to them but I just find it funny to think of Hulk punching his own face and I wanted you to enjoy that image.

When the trap is set we are going to make use of one of Hulk's established weakness to phuck my opponent's up: Gas.

Super Boy can carry gas at super speed because that's how his Tactic Telekinesis rolls:

https://imgur.com/KhVGbN0

So Mirror Master will set a portal close to the Kawah Ijen Volcano and my man Conner is filling our mirror room with toxic fumes. Hulk is though but he needs to breath.

You think they cannot be conceivable as distracted as I claim with illusions or constructs? I'll obstruct their frigging eyes by hanging in them full "wassuuup" mode:

https://imgur.com/gWsWtU7

Too fast, too talented, too toxic.

You should vote for my team if only for the funny sh*t I'm going to bring into the next match.


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Judges, I forgot to mention -- the Mirror Dimension is not considered as BFR. It's a valid dimension to be in without losing the match by self-BFR and it's also not considered as BFR-ing the opponent.

For any other questions, please PM me.


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Judges, consider current She-Hulk as a valid version for leo to use, even if I specified [classic] in my original post. Misunderstandings galore, lol.


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Delta's verdict:

quote:
So we have Hulk vs He-Man/She-Hulk/Battlecat vs Superboy/Mirror Master. Let's get to their strategies.

Beatboks plans on vast destruction to cover the area in dust, robbing MM of his power, while hurting everyone with thunderclap, and just relying on his stats. As well as depowering She-Hulk and making a weapon against MM if need be.

Leo is freezing time with Prince Adam, taking out Bentley's team if he can, then turning back into He-Man decapitating Hulk, followed by fighting Bentley's team with She-Hulk and Battlecat as needed.

Bentley plans on getting to safety, using Superboy's breath to produce as many reflective surfaces as possible, as well as a weapon in and of itself, in addition to going over the top with what MM can do(and boy did I love the idea of Hulk beating himself up).

I see Leo's opening tactic mostly working. Superboy at minimum will get far away enough I don't see Leo being able to reach him, if not out of the time freeze range. But that was anticipated. And it looks like it would be quick enough to stop everyone else. After seeing what He-Man did to Serpos, I do believe it will decapitate Hulk. So then it's just Superboy vs Leo's team. Which I see Superboy losing.

While you all had good plans working with what you had, my vote goes to Leo.


Pr's verdict:
quote:

When I first saw the match, I was already leaning towards certain people as being more likely to win than others, but I tried to be as fair as I could, and to read the posts a couple of times to make sure I saw everything.

First of all, beatboks as Hulk. Easily one of the favourites going in to the match (it's the ****ing Hulk), I was looking forward to seeing how he would combat the versatility of the other characters. The plan was short, sweet and to the point, but right away I had my doubts about whether the Hulk could cover every single solitary surface with dust to make it non-reflective. It was a clever plan, but I wasn't buying it. Still, there was enough of a strategy other than that to make me think he was still in with a chance.

Leo's He-Man and She-Hulk. They were my honest-to-god favourites considering how utterly broken He-Man is as a character (about as broken as my wallet hunting down just two MOTUC figures). I didn't realise so many sources would be considered canon, and though I wasn't sure about the She-Hulk side of things (even if I have a soft-spot for Jen), I was still thinking going in to the last post that Leo might have captured it... until I realised that there was no mention of how quickly He-Man transforms back in to Prince Adam. In the cartoon it was only a couple of seconds, but still, that time can mean a lot in these fights.

So, on to Bentley's post. Gonna be honest here, I really didn't rate them, but with Bentley writing them, I had a sneaking suspicion that he had something clever up his sleeve. It's fair to say he did not disappoint. Now, there were times reading his Mirror Master strategy where I felt like believability was stretched somewhat. Limitations seemed to not exist for Mirror Master, and yet I started to believe that it might actually be possible. His belief that he could toss people like the Hulk and He-Man in to the mirror dimension intrigued me, as it's not transmutation as much as it is teleportation.

But, there is the obvious issue of Hulk constantly shattering anything nearby until it's not even remotely reflective. He-Man... isn't He-Man, so is largely useless in this fight. Sorry Leo.

What convinced me in the end was the mirror room. That... seemed like a comprehensive enough strategy to win. The only thing I could see countering it, is Hulk's thunderclap, but there are always ways to make sure that never happened, if Bentley is to be believed with the scans he provided.

So, yes, Bentley ftw.


Diesel's verdict:
quote:

Beatbox is really limited by the hulk.

He’s 360 thunderclap won’t put down heman or Conner Kent. Conner had kryptonian. It may not even work to incapacitate MIrror master if he jumps out from the start like Bentley to another or continent.

His entire plan is to guard himself from the mirror master, defeat all the opponents, rig up a device as banner to defeat MM before the dust settles. I can’t see that happening, don’t think even carver can.


Next is Leo. He took the unconventional route,

Went in as prince Adam with all of his weaknesses. And since he’s prince Adam, he has cringer(spelling) and not battle cat.

Still, can he stop time before he gets knocked out by the thunderclap? Leo stated that this is a rare feat for the prince but he didn’t tell us how long it will take him to do a stop time.

Can he do it before mm sees this and kidnaps him? Or Conner uses superspeed to ko him?

Bentley didn’t consider this so a quick ko and kidnapping is out from the equation; but beatbox had that thunderclap.

Leo never explained how much effort or time it takes for the prince to stop time but from the scans it takes some effort and level of concentration. Can he do this before the thunderclap can ko him? Leo didn’t provide enough info. So the prince is taken out by the thunderclap.

So it’s hulk vs she hulk vs Conner and MM
I like Bentley use of mm’s powers to get everyone fighting themselves, keep hulk engaged.
Leo’s wild card plan was to stop time and the cut everyone up failed and he didn’t show enough of she hulk to matter.

Bentley has hulk engaged and punching himself and showed Conner with enough to go toe to toe with sbp. That should be enough to beat up she hulk with the way Leo presented her.

Once she hulk is down it’s Conner, mm and hulks punches against hulk. 3vs 1. Bentley had the right idea. Leo’s tactic failed because we just don’t have enough info.

So IMO Bentley wins this round.


Congratulations Bentley, you are the winner. You advance to the semi-finals.


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Just want to add my two cents, but before doing so I want to apologize for the grammatical errors in my post. Had just woken up lol.

In order to judge without bias, I forced myself not to think about who was making the arguments but about the arguments. Tried to imagine how a battle would go based on these arguments and that is how I came to my conclusion. Also this was the first time I’ve ever had my name in a bZ thread as either a participant or a judge. Good luck rest of the way.

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Thanks to Leo, Beatboks and the judges for this match. Pretty much all the crazyness I expected from a three-way fight, hope we can keep the momentum for the next round


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thumb up good luck and thanks to the judges for reading through that mess.


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