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Morgoths_Wrath
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What's so bad about living with a nuclear Iran?

Now, I understand that Iran has threatened Israel and wants to wipe them off the map, but if Iran got the bomb I don't know how quick they would be to use it since Israel has nukes as well.

I think that their push for nuclear technology and their defiance of the West is mostly to prove that they are a powerful nation and they have every right to nuclear power, just as much right as the West has.

The Iranians, from what I've heard, are a very proud people, and for the (more powerful?) Western powers to say they can't have nuclear power must be insulting to them.

How big is the threat of a nuclear Iran, honestly? Is it worth fighting a war against them to stop their nuclear ambitions? Do they have a legitimate right to nuclear energy as a sovereign nation?

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Answering the three questions at the end of your post:

1.) Pretty big. Enough that they are on record saying that they want to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. Next step:get nukes. Seems clear cut to me.
Also, they fund and supply insurgents in Iraq and Hezzbolah terrorists. Nukes for them are a no-no.


2.)Yes. Absolutely.

3.)Nope.



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Re: What's so bad about living with a nuclear Iran?

Q.How big is the threat of a nuclear Iran, honestly?

A.Huge as they said Israeli's deserve to die and should go back to where they came form (Which in my opinion was the purpose of forming Israel)

Q.Is it worth fighting a war against them to stop their nuclear ambitions?

A.Yes its worth fighting anyone to stop them killing innocents(which they will use the bomb for)

Q.Do they have a legitimate right to nuclear energy as a sovereign nation?

A.No as they will just use it to convert Uranium to Plutonium


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What's so bad about living with a nuclear Iran?

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But can't Israel defend themselves? They have nukes. And if Iran, as a nation, would ever declare war on Israel they know they would be in a world of sh*t. While they talk big, I think Iran knows the consequences of such an act. I can’t imagine they would do something that stupid.

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Ye but heres the thing

War Plan for Dummies

Iran Fires Nukes at Israel

Israel Fires back and calls Its allies

The U.S and Great Britain fire at Iran

Iran calls its Allies

Its Allies shoot at Great Britain and U.S.A

We all die


See what i mean, Nuclear war always follows the systems of M.A.D(Mutually assured destruction)


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Ye but heres the thing

War Plan for Dummies

Iran Fires Nukes at Israel

Israel Fires back and calls Its allies

The U.S and Great Britain fire at Iran

Iran calls its allies

Its Allies shoot at Great Britain and U.S.A

We all die


and who might they be? Russia? China? I highly doubt they would back Iran if they attacked Israel.

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See what i mean, Nuclear war always follows the systems of M.A.D(Mutually assured destruction)


I would think that that would be deterrent enough to keep Iran at bay. I might be wrong.

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and who might they be? Russia? China? I highly doubt they would back Iran if they attacked Israel.

Ye but in this scenario Russia's been contaminated with radioactive material by the attacks on Iran whats it got to lose.

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I would think that that would be deterrent enough to keep Iran at bay. I might be wrong.

Iran would be muslim martyr's in their own eye's.You get rewards for that in heaven.


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Ye but in this scenario Russia's been contaminated with radioactive material by the attacks on Iran whats it got to lose.


Yeah, that could be bad news...



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Iran would be muslim martyr's in their own eye's.You get rewards for that in heaven.


What a waste.

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How many nukes would it take to destroy Israel's ability to return fire?

How many nukes would it take to destroy Iran's ability to return fire?

Iran knows that they can throw everything they have, and destroy Israel’s ability to return fire. Then hind in bunkers and survive what every the US can do to them before the doves stop the US.


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Now, I understand that Iran has threatened Israel and wants to wipe them off the map, but if Iran got the bomb I don't know how quick they would be to use it since Israel has nukes as well.

I think that their push for nuclear technology and their defiance of the West is mostly to prove that they are a powerful nation and they have every right to nuclear power, just as much right as the West has.

The Iranians, from what I've heard, are a very proud people, and for the (more powerful?) Western powers to say they can't have nuclear power must be insulting to them.

How big is the threat of a nuclear Iran, honestly? Is it worth fighting a war against them to stop their nuclear ambitions? Do they have a legitimate right to nuclear energy as a sovereign nation?


Everything.

They're putting all their money in the wrong place. Poor P.O.S. countries should not have nuclear weapons.


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How many nukes would it take to destroy Israel's ability to return fire?

How many nukes would it take to destroy Iran's ability to return fire?

Iran knows that they can throw everything they have, and destroy Israel’s ability to return fire. Then hind in bunkers and survive what every the US can do to them before the doves stop the US.


But when Iran start fuelling Israel gets information from sleeper agents (Israel is liked amongst the West so it would be warned if Iran was fuelling by most Western countires).This information encourages Israel to starty fuelling its missiles, When Iran fires they will take time to reach Israel.At about a 1/4 of the way on Irans missiles journey Israel will fire along with most of the West.This could casue fallout headed to Russia who with nothing to lose fire at the West. No-one survives.


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But when Iran start fuelling Israel gets information from sleeper agents (Israel is liked amongst the West so it would be warned if Iran was fuelling by most Western countires).This information encourages Israel to starty fuelling its missiles, When Iran fires they will take time to reach Israel.At about a 1/4 of the way on Irans missiles journey Israel will fire along with most of the West.This could casue fallout headed to Russia who with nothing to lose fire at the West. No-one survives.


That is a bad scenario; that is why the US will bomb then into the stone age long before they ever get the bomb.


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That is a bad scenario; that is why the US will bomb them into the stone age long before they ever get the bomb.


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See? End of discussion.

They don't get it, and we won't let 'em.


Shaky wins the thread! big grin


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Re: What's so bad about living with a nuclear Iran?

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Originally posted by Morgoths_Wrath
Now, I understand that Iran has threatened Israel and wants to wipe them off the map, but if Iran got the bomb I don't know how quick they would be to use it since Israel has nukes as well.

I think that their push for nuclear technology and their defiance of the West is mostly to prove that they are a powerful nation and they have every right to nuclear power, just as much right as the West has.

The Iranians, from what I've heard, are a very proud people, and for the (more powerful?) Western powers to say they can't have nuclear power must be insulting to them.

How big is the threat of a nuclear Iran, honestly? Is it worth fighting a war against them to stop their nuclear ambitions? Do they have a legitimate right to nuclear energy as a sovereign nation?


Not the threat that Iran will start launching nukes out of Tehran (even considering their open threats to Israel and the West) as much as who they'll sell their nuclear material too and/or who'll they use as a proxy to set off a nuke.

Seriouly now, Iran is a Theocracy, one less religion riddled nation without nukes is a good thing.


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Answering the three questions at the end of your post:

1. Pretty minimal

2. Nah

3. Sure


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Answering the three questions at the end of your post:

1.blah-blah-blah
2. blah-blah-blah
3. poop


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HEY. I didn't do that to your answers either...


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