Define an adult without relying on a specific age or laws. Define what traits or qualities you would want in a person before you would label that person as an adult.
For me, it requires:
1. Sexual maturity.
2. The ability to make at least decent decisions regarding complex social situations.
I prefer to add other things, but I will shush and let others discuss this topic, first.
totally random example: if we were discussing a court case involving an adult then the legal definition would be the only proper and appropriate one.
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That's specifically not supposed to be how you would define an adult. You, yourself, are supposed to provide your own definition, external of any laws or age.
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1. It's my thread
2. That is the point of discussion in the OP.
3. This is the GDF.
If you want to discuss a similar topic, but not the same as mine, open another thread. I'll even civilly participate just to show support for your thread.
In the mean time, please stop derailing my thread with off-topic commentary.
Sorry, DDM, you don't get to micromanage a thread just because you started it, that's a moderator's job. If you feel a rule was broken in a thread report the post. Don't play moderator. But I'll save you the trouble, no rule was broken here.
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It does not qualify as off topic because you pointlessly attempted to expel a perfectly valid sub-topic of the discussion before the the discussion even took place - presumably because that segment of the topic was not favorable to your argument in the other thread.
He said it depended on the context, which is a reasonable statement, especially since the context of the discussion which spawned this thread is one regarding a court case where legal terms are what actually matter, as opposed to fairly abstract opinion-based thoughts as to what does or doesn't constitute an adult.
imho arbitrary-natured logic diversions like this belong in the philosophy forum
if its here in the gdf, its just you dictating what denotes an adult by eliminating people who disagree.
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We're all struggling to become adults. Adult is an idea. The idea of an adult differs with each culture. I suppose, generally speaking when one is able to be responsible enough to take care of themselves that is when they become an adult. However, that's where it depends on the culture. What is responsible enough? Personally i think you're an adult somewhere in your late teens. biology..,you're body, mind and soul let you know when you're an adult.
Some people are forced to become an adult at a very young age due to environment and this often hinders their intellectual or social growth later on in years.
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One is biologically an adult when they can reproduce their own species. In human terms one is legally an adult when they can engage in contract. When a human is emotionally an adult is open to interpretation.
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Please don't argue with the mods, DDM. And as BF told you, creating the thread gives you no power to set what is or is not off-topic. That is entirely up to the mods to decide- which is done precisely to stop the kind of kind of ridiculous shut down of reasonable points you are trying to engage in here- and you criticising others for being off-topic as you have tried to do so here is not allowed. BF is telling you that focus' take ob the subject is on-topic, and that is that. There is no need for any more discussion of this.
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I tend to agree with what you've stated, here. I see the concept of an "adult" to be much more nebulous than most people prefer. As I've stated, some people never reach a point, in their life, to where they can give informed concent in a semi-complex social contract. Still, others reach maturity much sooner than others and have the understanding and ability of even very capable adults.
There was someone like that on KMC a few years back. No way you could have guessed he was 14...trying to remember his name. Sure, a forum is not the best of ways to assess a persons social abilities, understanding, bla bla bla. But it can certainly give you an idea.
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Last edited by dadudemon on Jul 16th, 2013 at 06:29 PM
What is an adult?
- Biologically/sexually mature body.
- Capable of formal operational thinking ("abstract"/"conceptual").
- Can delay gratification (put others' needs first).
- Can recognize that "results" matter, not making excuses, when it comes to meeting expectations. Ie, takes responsibility for one's own actions.
- Has perspective on one's own life, a "felt-sense" of one's own personal history.
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