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How much will personal genetic modification cost?

Is there anyone who know anything about the field of bio-medical research? We already know what stem cell research is capable of biologically immortality and designer DnA replacement cells but it was banned by the US congress which pisses me off. But bio-medical nanorobitics provides even more in depth alteration of DnA. All we're missing is the completion human genome project and the brain initiative (respectively) and the sky's the limit.

But what if doctors could do more than just treat disabilities, would if they could enhance, a super-plastic surgery if you will, our bodies and minds - how much is that?


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Personal genetic modification will cost exactly $23.51.


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Personal genetic modification will cost exactly $23.51.
Yea right!

Plastic surgery already costs hundreds of thousands, it's really up to how much the MDs wanna price-gouge, ain't it?


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Seriously, any thoughts? The HGP is all about getting a complete map of practically every molecule in a human body and how each of them interact and create a whole functioning adult. The Brain Initiative is about every electric impulse in every synapse and how that all works together, and really gives a lot more info about what consciousness really is.

The nanites of course go in through the blood stream directed by these genome and cognome maps and rearrange dna strands or molecules or transmutates them so you transform one human being into an entirely different human being if the true limits were to be put the test, you could have a bunch of Geo-political supermen running around miraculously pulling a nations out of dept. Really you could rearrange a lump of coal into a diamond, mass produce all kinds of shit basically for free.

This tech could be used for an advanced Utopian society, or Dystopian society, for genocidal technology, etc. We know everyone is talking about it, and it's really becoming conflicting for me. I really don't see the point in doing anything pertaining for the future, when I'm 60 or 70 I don't know what the world might be like because everywhere, even on Sunday Morning and NPR everyone who knows anything about emerging tech. says it's precisely 2050. All of them.


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Moreover, a surplus of solar-thermal-fluid-catalytic nanites could get into a person's body - without them knowing - via administration through routinely shots or injections or touching something or taking a puff from an inhaler, etc. When inside, nanites will flow along with the blood of a vessel straight to their brain, and alter their minds, personalities, actions, memories and behaviors. Central Intelligence Agencies will be too saturated with overflowing perplexing intell for any government to monitor or keep track of should someone somewhere decide something, a web of electronic information will be everywhere humans are, every bit of 7 billion individual livelihoods will be accessible to people who can't be kept track of.

That makes any nanovirus look like a freaking joke.


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I'll joke around but this doesn't a spam-flame-f*ck-fest. If I ever meet another transhumanist like myself, someone who isn't afraid to go there, I will fall in love with that person. But no one here is a transhumanist, futurist, you all think it's not science fiction (which I love to romanticize) but all bullsh*t and horse hockey that you know for a fact is impossible, and that everything I post reflects such. You know what I have to say to that? Kank.


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If I ever meet another transhumanist like myself, someone who isn't afraid to go there, I will fall in love with that person. But no one here is a transhumanist, futurist, you all think it's not science fiction (which I love to romanticize) but all bullsh*t and horse hockey that you know for a fact is impossible, and that everything I post reflects such. You know what I have to say to that? Kank.


http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...threadid=462824

I'm in a relationship. Flattered, though.


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I'm in a relationship. Flattered, though.

Is Mindship a transhumanist?


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Re: How much will personal genetic modification cost?

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Is there anyone who know anything about the field of bio-medical research? We already know what stem cell research is capable of biologically immortality and designer DnA replacement cells but it was banned by the US congress which pisses me off. But bio-medical nanorobitics provides even more in depth alteration of DnA. All we're missing is the completion human genome project and the brain initiative (respectively) and the sky's the limit.

But what if doctors could do more than just treat disabilities, would if they could enhance, a super-plastic surgery if you will, our bodies and minds - how much is that?


Ive been taking prescribed Growth Hormone For 4 Years and I have not aged a day. Not only that I but I gained 30lbs of lean muscle mass and when I get hurt I am healed within days not weeks or months.


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About tree fiddy.


I came to this thread to post that.


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I'll joke around but this doesn't a spam-flame-f*ck-fest. If I ever meet another transhumanist like myself, someone who isn't afraid to go there, I will fall in love with that person. But no one here is a transhumanist, futurist, you all think it's not science fiction (which I love to romanticize) but all bullsh*t and horse hockey that you know for a fact is impossible, and that everything I post reflects such. You know what I have to say to that? Kank.


I'm a transhumanist and a Mormon.

Sooo...do I just have to unzip now or...?


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There are other people interested in Transhumanism here, Dolos. I think the flippant comments are more in reaction to your approach/question in the OP. How much it's going to cost is too speculative to produce in-depth discussion, and doesn't actually touch on topics that Transhumanists are interested in (which is usually the technologies themselves and their implications)

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Is Mindship a transhumanist?


Dunno.

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I came to this thread to post that.

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That's ok; I'll love me enough for the both of us.


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I doubt we will ever have the means to genetically modify anything past the single-cell stage.

A grown human body consists of around 10¹⁴ cells, most of which would have their DNA altered individually. Realistically speaking, this isn't possible. Heck, we're not even able to cure cancer.

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I have modified my genetics with GH


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I doubt we will ever have the means to genetically modify anything past the single-cell stage.

A grown human body consists of around 10¹⁴ cells, most of which would have their DNA altered individually. Realistically speaking, this isn't possible. Heck, we're not even able to cure cancer.


Well have a map of 10^14 cells, as is the goal of the human genome project.


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Is Mindship a transhumanist?


I lol'd.


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Well have a map of 10^14 cells, as is the goal of the human genome project.

Not all cells in the human body are stationary, on top of that, even if you manage to map them and their movements, then what? You're going to individually poke a hole in each and everyone of them without ruining the membrane and inject RNA-altering catalysts?

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GH causes hyperplasia in your body so it actually causes new cells to form which in return creates new tissue, new muscle fiber, brain cells, cartilage regrowth, anything that need to be regenerated it does through hyperplasia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperplasia


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Well if you want genetic therapy? We have already done it.

It is done by using the casing for the smallpox virus, and putting in the DNA you want in there. It takes several repeated treatments.

The casing for the smallpox virus is apparently really good at getting DNA into the nucleus.

It is highly experimental still probably.


@Supra is that how you can go super saiyan? If so sign me up!

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I doubt we will ever have the means to genetically modify anything past the single-cell stage.

A grown human body consists of around 10¹⁴ cells, most of which would have their DNA altered individually. Realistically speaking, this isn't possible. Heck, we're not even able to cure cancer.


I had to double check the poster name because I didn't think a post from you would be that bad.


Here is what I think is a list of known cancer cures:

http://humansarehealthy.com/2011/01...ncer-cures.html


Here is an elementary explanation of Gene Therapy:
http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/handbook/therapy/genetherapy


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