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Republicans may never win an election again.

Based on what the 2020 election showed us.

Take a look at Texas.

Less than a million votes and Biden would've taken it.

Here's the electoral map from 2020 with Texas blue.

If Republicans lose Texas, they're screwed for the foreseeable future.


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Based on what the 2020 election showed us.

Take a look at Texas.

Less than a million votes and Biden would've taken it.

Here's the electoral map from 2020 with Texas blue.

If Republicans lose Texas, they're screwed for the foreseeable future.
It won't be that easy.

The GOP still control very gerrymandered states like Texas at local/state government level and they'll play hard ball to stay in power. The sad part is their voting base will ignore these power grabs because they only care about winning.


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It won't be that easy.

The GOP still control very gerrymandered states like Texas at local/state government level and they'll play hard ball to stay in power. The sad part is their voting base will ignore these power grabs because they only care about winning.


I hate gerrymandering.

It's scummy as hell and anti-democratic.


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I hate gerrymandering.

It's scummy as hell and anti-democratic.
Lobbyists should have the right to gerrymander!

Free dumb!


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It won't be that easy.

The GOP still control very gerrymandered states like Texas at local/state government level and they'll play hard ball to stay in power. The sad part is their voting base will ignore these power grabs because they only care about winning.



Plus generally speaking, the right are more consistent voters. Took a Donald Trump to bring the Democrats out in force, but that probably won't be true next election. Without a good boogie man, fact is many may just decide to stay at home and not bother with the mail in's.


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Plus generally speaking, the right are more consistent voters. Took a Donald Trump to bring the Democrats out in force, but that probably won't be true next election. Without a good boogie man, fact is many may just decide to stay at home and not bother with the mail in's.
There's a little more to it than that.

Typically democrats are urban voters and many GOP controlled states make it super hard to vote in the cities. For instance voting times are much harder to hit in Urban areas where large numbers of people can get jammed into long lines before work.

These types of things make it highly highly inconvenient this year mail in ballots made it a lot easier to get around the GOPs' normal suppression game plan.

Honestly I think that day should just become federal holiday.


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There's a little more to it than that.

Typically democrats are urban voters and many GOP controlled states make it super hard to vote in the cities. For instance voting times are much harder to hit in Urban areas where large numbers of people can get jammed into long lines before work.

These types of things make it highly highly inconvenient this year mail in ballots made it a lot easier to get around the GOPs' normal suppression game plan.

Honestly I think that day should just become federal holiday.
or have it the day before thanks giving


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Re: Republicans may never win an election again.

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Based on what the 2020 election showed us.

Take a look at Texas.

Less than a million votes and Biden would've taken it.

Here's the electoral map from 2020 with Texas blue.

If Republicans lose Texas, they're screwed for the foreseeable future.



God willing and they really did it to themselves, which is just the best part.


But as Newjack noted, it won't be that easy, due to gerrymandering and Republicans love of enacting voter restricting law.

Texas flipping Blue will still likely happen at some point. Could potentially even happen in the next two election cycles, which would be super duper.

They lost Arizona in 2020 as predicted. Lets see if they're able to take it back in 2024.


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Plus generally speaking, the right are more consistent voters. Took a Donald Trump to bring the Democrats out in force, but that probably won't be true next election. Without a good boogie man, fact is many may just decide to stay at home and not bother with the mail in's.

Don't forget that Republicans in some states, like GA, are actively making it harder to mail in vote.

Online voting is being trial ran in a some places though, so the future of elections is going to be interesting going forward though.

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Online voting is being trial ran in a some places though,



Its actually surprising we dont just all vote on our phones.

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Don't forget that Republicans in some states, like GA, are actively making it harder to mail in vote.

Online voting is being trial ran in a some places though, so the future of elections is going to be interesting going forward though.


Funny you mention actively making voting harder for people. I recently read an article that answered the question of why absentee voting is more important to push now then in, say, 2004. The article cited Covid as a reason, of course, but it also said the voting cohort had changed.

It very blatantly went on to say in 2000-2004 most people who needed mail in votes were seniors who voted Republican, and would get to the polls no matter what, so they didn't need them at all.



Combine that with an article from the New York Times from 2004:


https://archive.is/XChgE

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Absentee Votes Worry Officials as Nov. 2 Nears


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Since 2000, when mail-in votes became crucial to President Bush's narrow victory in Florida, several groups that studied election irregularities have issued warnings about absentee voting. One commission, whose co-chairman was former President Jimmy Carter, found that most election officials had grown lax in handling absentee ballots.
"For practical reasons, most states do not routinely check signatures either on applications or on returned ballots, just as most states do not verify signatures or require proof of identity at the polls," wrote John Mark Hansen, dean of the social sciences division at the University of Chicago, who directed research for the commission's 2001 report.
Also in 2001, an international association of election officials called the Election Center produced a report that noted the growing importance of absentee voting and concluded, "Strict procedures and penalties to prevent undue influence and fraud must be adopted by jurisdictions seeking expanded absentee access or all-mail elections."
Gary Bartlett, an association member and the director of elections in North Carolina, said, "It seems like whenever there is hanky-panky in elections, it's usually through absentee voting."




Very. VERY interesting.


You won't find articles like that from the NYT now. Instead, nearly all articles are promoting the security of ballots, and how it supports ones right to vote.



Pretty much a silver bullet example of why the Times is considered in the tank for the Democrats, as far as I'm concerned.


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I dunno, while Texas is slowly trending blue, and will probably eventually become a blue state, other states are trending red, namely Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan. If those turn red in the future then, while dems will still have the advantage, it won't be the blowout victories you'd think with them having texas.


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I dunno, while Texas is slowly trending blue, and will probably eventually become a blue state, other states are trending red, namely Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan. If those turn red in the future then, while dems will still have the advantage, it won't be the blowout victories you'd think with them having texas.
I live in Ohio. One of the big reasons it's trending red is that it is so gerrymandered the GOP just get to push all the objectives and narratives through at the state level. Slowly creating conservative stronghold in the process.

It sucks to be a part of.


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Its actually surprising we dont just all vote on our phones.
nice idea but a lot of people don't have that privilege, besides the fact that some nerds could hack the app.


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