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UK does have systemic racism MPs find after partisan report claimed it didn't.

"UK Report Finds No Evidence of Systemic Racism but Authors Aren't Impartial" https://www.businessinsider.com/uk-...onal-2021-4?amp



https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...ndroidApp_Other

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This shit starts at the top. You're not going to reform the police until the bigoted MPs get turfed out first.


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White Savior Complex is a terrible thing.
You mean equality for all is a bad thing Eon? How so?
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This shit starts at the top. You're not going to reform the police until the bigoted MPs get turfed out first.
Agree 100% thumb up

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It doesn’t help that Diane Abbot gets a lot of media attention, despite the fact that she’s a moron.


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Re: UK does have systemic racism MPs find after partisan report claimed it didn't.

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"UK Report Finds No Evidence of Systemic Racism but Authors Aren't Impartial" https://www.businessinsider.com/uk-...onal-2021-4?amp



https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...ndroidApp_Other


Am I reading that right, the racist in charge were the ones looking to see if there was systemic racism?


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"Systemic racism" is not provable. It simply is not.


How can anyone know for certain if police officers are unfairly targeting minorities, or if minorities simply break more laws? How can this be proven in either direction?


It can't be. And so broad assumptions are made, that assume racism where there are disparities.


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"Systemic racism" is not provable. It simply is not.


How can anyone know for certain if police officers are unfairly targeting minorities, or if minorities simply break more laws? How can this be proven in either direction?


It can't be. And so broad assumptions are made, that assume racism where there are disparities.
I mean you can actually prove it by showing bias in the rates of how the system treats minorities.

Those types of things don't happen for no reason after all.

Also if you're counter is well this group of minorities is simply more criminal you're pretty much speaking from a racist platform.


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The US has real life examples, how housing and loans were made to limit where Black people live and this was sanctioned by the government and I'm not talking about 150 years ago, there are old Black people still around you lived through it.

To this day, there are many states which still have housing "Caucasians Only" bylaws. Sure they're not enforced due in part to the Fair Housing Act , but they're still in the rules.

To this day housing decriminalization happens, is it like before? No. Still happens though.


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"Systemic racism" is not provable. It simply is not.


How can anyone know for certain if police officers are unfairly targeting minorities, or if minorities simply break more laws? How can this be proven in either direction?


It can't be. And so broad assumptions are made, that assume racism where there are disparities.
it’s to analyze cases in question. For example,



This is obviously an ambiguous one off incident, but it shows racial hatred is still real.

Another example would be Liam Neeson who confirmed he was going mentally ill wanting to kill a black person. Though, he’s somewhat gotten better now, I guess.


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Am I reading that right, the racist in charge were the ones looking to see if there was systemic racism?
Yup, that's what happened they used a British equivalent to Breightbart to do the survey too.

The non partisan second survey shows it was all a snow job.

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The US has real life examples, how housing and loans were made to limit where Black people live and this was sanctioned by the government and I'm not talking about 150 years ago, there are old Black people still around you lived through it.

To this day, there are many states which still have housing "Caucasians Only" bylaws. Sure they're not enforced due in part to the Fair Housing Act , but they're still in the rules.

To this day housing decriminalization happens, is it like before? No. Still happens though.


What you say is true, and there's a part to the story that simply doesn't get told.

That being many of the lenders and housers happen to be Jewish.


Relevance, you ask? Only that the charge of racism is squarely aimed at whites. Yet whites do not own many of the institutions that caused this disparity in the first place (At least not Euro-Aryan sorts, the main target of bigotry criticisms)


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Your "it's the Jews!" angle is facepalm worthy, dude.

Jewish people can be White; in America, the majority of Jews are White.

Anyhow, this is a UK thread, so sorry for the derail, Whirls.


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The US has real life examples, how housing and loans were made to limit where Black people live and this was sanctioned by the government and I'm not talking about 150 years ago, there are old Black people still around you lived through it.

To this day, there are many states which still have housing "Caucasians Only" bylaws. Sure they're not enforced due in part to the Fair Housing Act , but they're still in the rules.

To this day housing decriminalization happens, is it like before? No. Still happens though.
but have you ever had an election fought with the catchphrase...

"If you want a ****** for a neighbour vote liberal or labour"?

We did.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ick-50-years-on

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but have you ever had an election fought with the catchphrase...

"If you want a ****** for a neighbour vote liberal or labour"?

We did.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ick-50-years-on


Good lord. The Tories not even trying to hide it.


Don't know if one was ever that blatant in the open, our racist politicians tend to prefer dogwhistlings and innuendo, not saying the quiet part out loud. Though I could see it happening in the past.


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Good lord. The Tories not even trying to hide it.


Don't know if one was ever that blatant in the open, our racist politicians tend to prefer dogwhistlings and innuendo, not saying the quiet part out loud. Though I could see it happening in the past.
Political Correctness at least up until recently made ours more creative in how they put themselves across too. Sill sickening half a century later.

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Good lord. The Tories not even trying to hide it.


Don't know if one was ever that blatant in the open, our racist politicians tend to prefer dogwhistlings and innuendo, not saying the quiet part out loud. Though I could see it happening in the past.
we used language, you used attack dogs.

Inb4 rob is Hispanic, yeah yeah, to me, he’s just another Yankee-doodle.


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Hispanic and White are not exclusive, one can be both smile


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Hispanic and White are not exclusive, one can be both smile


You're right.


There was a time when Italian's and Poles weren't considered white. So by neither half of my family I wouldn't be considered white.

I think it was just the English who were true whites. And maybe Irish?


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"Systemic racism" is not provable. It simply is not.

No, really, individual racism is what's difficult to prove. The more broad you go, the easier it gets; the outcomes speak for themselves.


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