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Texans can carry weapons open or concealed as of 09-01-21

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/0...ry-greg-abbott/

As of September 1, 2021, residential citizens of Texas will be allowed to lawfully carry a firearm, concealed or openly, without a permit.

This is gonna both good and bad.

Lots of YouTube lawyers and Facebook attorneys are gonna get arrested or drawn down on.

I own several firearms and already have my concealed carry license, but it required a lot of paperwork and classroom time. Just because I'm a veteran doesn't make me a firearms law expert.

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Originally posted by Impediment
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/0...ry-greg-abbott/

As of September 1, 2021, residential citizens Texas will be allowed to lawfully carry a firearm, concealed or openly, without a permit.

This is gonna both good and bad.

Lots of YouTube lawyers and Facebook attorneys are gonna get arrested or drawn down on.

I own several firearms and already have my concealed carry license, but it required a lot of paperwork and classroom time. Just because I'm a veteran doesn't make me a firearms law expert.

Opinions?


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House Bill 1927 eliminates the requirement for Texas residents to obtain a license to carry handguns if they’re not prohibited by state or federal law from possessing a gun. The signing was reported by the Texas Legislature's official website, which tracks the progress of legislation. Abbott's office has announced a ceremonial signing of the bill and other gun-related legislation at 11 a.m. Thursday.


I guess the real issue is, are the state and federal laws enough to ensure the people who can carry guns are safe?


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https://www.texastribune.org/2021/0...ry-greg-abbott/

As of September 1, 2021, residential citizens Texas will be allowed to lawfully carry a firearm, concealed or openly, without a permit.

This is gonna both good and bad.

Lots of YouTube lawyers and Facebook attorneys are gonna get arrested or drawn down on.

I own several firearms and already have my concealed carry license, but it required a lot of paperwork and classroom time. Just because I'm a veteran doesn't make me a firearms law expert.

Opinions?



This is a great thing imo. The idea that firearms need to be hidden goes against basic common sense.


It's the equivilent of saying a club bouncer needs to look like a weakling, when the fact is you WANT a bully boy who looks as imposing as possible, so no one even tries testing them.


By the same logic, if I see someone with a gun I sure wouldn't mess with such a person. More confrontations diffused from just knowing someone is openly armed.


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texASS and floriDUH, still competing to be the official retard state....but floriDUH already won, with this week's record breaking new covid cases, juxtaposed wirh their anti-science trumper maggot governor preparing to send all children to class, im pretty sure the contest is over.


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Keep up the racist fighting to disarm blacks Teg. thumb up


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Florida really is a retard state, I think it’s overshadowed by universal studios and Miami giving it some kind of respect.


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Re: Texans can carry weapons open or concealed as of 09-01-21

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Originally posted by Impediment
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/0...ry-greg-abbott/

As of September 1, 2021, residential citizens Texas will be allowed to lawfully carry a firearm, concealed or openly, without a permit.

This is gonna both good and bad.

Lots of YouTube lawyers and Facebook attorneys are gonna get arrested or drawn down on.

I own several firearms and already have my concealed carry license, but it required a lot of paperwork and classroom time. Just because I'm a veteran doesn't make me a firearms law expert.

Opinions?


Full disclosure - I don't own a gun, I have never fired a gun, I have no interest in them whatsoever. However, that last part where you say you had to do a lot of paperwork and take a class sounds like the kind of stuff everyone should have to do in order to carry a concealed weapon. Seems like a reasonable price to pay to prove that you actually mentally and emotionally capable of handling a deadly weapon safely.


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Yeah I’m with backfire on this. There should be courses to prove you’re fit enough to carry a killing machine.


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My contention is that one should take a mandatory 8 hour class (minimum) and then qualify at a shooting range with 200 rounds. That’s a pretty basic class, and I’m a former Infantryman.

People are gonna be road raging and pull a gun and that’s aggravated assault. Some people won’t know when deadly force is legally applicable and authorized.


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My contention is that one should take a mandatory 8 hour class (minimum) and then qualify at a shooting range with 200 rounds. That’s a pretty basic class, and I’m a former Infantryman.

People are gonna be road raging and pull a gun and that’s aggravated assault. Some people won’t know when deadly force is legally applicable and authorized.


That sounds reasonable to me.

Will be interesting to see what happens in Texas as a result.


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Re: Re: Texans can carry weapons open or concealed as of 09-01-21

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Full disclosure - I don't own a gun, I have never fired a gun, I have no interest in them whatsoever. However, that last part where you say you had to do a lot of paperwork and take a class sounds like the kind of stuff everyone should have to do in order to carry a concealed weapon. Seems like a reasonable price to pay to prove that you actually mentally and emotionally capable of handling a deadly weapon safely.


This is Imp we're talking about. We all know he's batshit to the maximum degree possible.


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This is Imp we're talking about. We all know he's batshit to the maximum degree possible.
that was sarcasm, right? laughing out loud


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Re: Texans can carry weapons open or concealed as of 09-01-21

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Originally posted by Impediment
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/0...ry-greg-abbott/

As of September 1, 2021, residential citizens Texas will be allowed to lawfully carry a firearm, concealed or openly, without a permit.

This is gonna both good and bad.

Lots of YouTube lawyers and Facebook attorneys are gonna get arrested or drawn down on.

I own several firearms and already have my concealed carry license, but it required a lot of paperwork and classroom time. Just because I'm a veteran doesn't make me a firearms law expert.

Opinions?
This isn't even going backwards to me because the wild west wasn't even this ridiculous.

Gun laws in many of those red states are less restrictive then they were during the western expansion days of the U.S.

It's a fantasy world where modern conservatives want to live where the good guys just pull out their guns and solve every problem.

The biggest problem is there are so many things that can quickly turn a 'good' guy with a gun into bad guy with a gun. A quick temper, alcohol, a life crisis event, a mental breakdown.

And to me the biggest thing that's going to cause trouble is half these people don't have the training to take up this responsibility and it's going to get people hurt.


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This isn't even going backwards to me because the wild west wasn't even this ridiculous.

Gun laws in many of those red states are less restrictive then they were during the western expansion days of the U.S.

It's a fantasy world where modern conservatives want to live where the good guys just pull out their guns and solve every problem.

The biggest problem is there are so many things that can quickly turn a 'good' guy with a gun into bad guy with a gun. A quick temper, alcohol, a life crisis event, a mental breakdown.

And to me the biggest thing that's going to cause trouble is half these people don't have the training to take up this responsibility and it's going to get people hurt.



Texas isn't exactly a hotbed of gun violence.


Guns don't necessarily mean violence.


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Texas isn't exactly a hotbed of gun violence.


Guns don't necessarily mean violence.
Statistically we know that to not be true.

Now are guns the only thing that leads violence. Of course not. Poverty, improper educations, and little social programs are the environments that lead to more crime.

Guns facilitate the ability to perform more efficient violence though. Making violence a more realistic outcome.

We've seen how violent crimes are effected in countries with less access to guns after all.


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Statistically we know that to not be true.

Now are guns the only thing that leads violence. Of course not. Poverty, improper educations, and little social programs are the environments that lead to more crime.

Guns facilitate the ability to perform more efficient violence though. Making violence a more realistic outcome.

We've seen how violent crimes are effected in countries with less access to guns after all.
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