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Noam Chomsky: "Trump is right on Ukraine/Russia"


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He's not. Neither of them are.

Here's what will happen.

The Russian economy will get wrecked to the point that they stop paying soldier's wages. Meanwhile Putin has a multi-billion dollar gigantic mansion in Sochi and super yachts.

You can see where this is going...


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Chomsky is a ****. Libertarians generally are.

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To be fair he also called Trump histories worst war criminal.


Meaning he's not really an apologist or Trumper.


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To be fair he also called Trump histories worst war criminal.


Meaning he's not really an apologist or Trumper.
Regardless, he's still a ****. Like all Libertarians.

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He's not. Neither of them are.

Here's what will happen.

The Russian economy will get wrecked to the point that they stop paying soldier's wages. Meanwhile Putin has a multi-billion dollar gigantic mansion in Sochi and super yachts.

You can see where this is going...

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Chomsky is in his 90's now, he's probably mentally not there anymore.


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Chomsky is a ****. Libertarians generally are.

What? He's not a libertarian in the American sense of the word, he's a libertarian socialist.


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Yeah Chomsky is on the left.

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What? He's not a libertarian in the American sense of the word, he's a libertarian socialist.
i question that, a socialist libertarian, isn't the same as a socialist.

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His economic idea is anarcho-syndicalism, which is far close to libertarian socialist. Yet, he's still an American who lives as a capitalist like every American.


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Most socialists nowadays arent out to completely eradicate Capitalism. They usually argue for a Scandinavian model. Free Healthcare, Education, decent benefits where needed. Invest in the environment as well.

But they still allow people to run business, invest and make money. Although they might believe in more progressives taxes for higher earners.

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To be fair he also called Trump histories worst war criminal.


Meaning he's not really an apologist or Trumper.



Dont think he called him a war criminal. That wouldnt sense given Trump didnt actually start a war. (Maybe that one assassination of Qasem Soleimani was a war crime, but that hardly qualifies for the worst war criminal).

I think he said something to the effect of Trump is the most dangerous person in the world. Related to him denying climate change and such (with related actions).

But yeah hes definitely not a Trumper !

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Most socialists nowadays arent out to completely eradicate Capitalism. They usually argue for a Scandinavian model. Free Healthcare, Education, decent benefits where needed. Invest in the environment as well.

But they still allow people to run business, invest and make money. Although they might believe in more progressives taxes for higher earners.
Which I condone for the most part; I'm not sure about taxing the rich. I think if I was a high earner paying 45% of my earnings to socialist institutions, some of which aren't successful, I'd be grumpy too.


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Which I condone for the most part; I'm not sure about taxing the rich. I think if I was a high earner paying 45% of my earnings to socialist institutions, some of which aren't successful, I'd be grumpy too.



45% is the highest tax rate in the UK right now. But multi millionaires tend to evade that.

I personally wouldnt feel sorry for the super rich paying their taxes.

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Well when I get to that status, I'll dodge too. stick out tongue


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Most socialists nowadays arent out to completely eradicate Capitalism. They usually argue for a Scandinavian model. Free Healthcare, Education, decent benefits where needed. Invest in the environment as well.

But they still allow people to run business, invest and make money. Although they might believe in more progressives taxes for higher earners.
You see, I'm an old school British Socialist/Trades Unionist. I've been on and off a member of the Labour party since 1985.

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I think healthcare, education and environmental research are good things to invest in. The real question is, should they be privatised or nationalised? I think nationalised. A democratic system that understands these things as fundamental rights is better than just letting people run riot, so to speak.


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I think healthcare, education and environmental research are good things to invest in. The real question is, should they be privatised or nationalised? I think nationalised. A democratic system that understands these things as fundamental rights is better than just letting people run riot, so to speak.
thumb up Agreed, it's common sense Blake

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Not sure about the UK, but here when you bring up common sense things like caring for the environment because we all need clean air, water and food, a proper universal Healthcare system, because a healthy county is better than a sick country and proper education, because a higher educated country is better than a low, the Right stars dropping the dirty S word "socialism" and it all goes to shit. Or the new one "Socialism Plus".



"Trump Claims Biden Will Try To Impose 'Socialism Plus' If Elected"


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