hahahha LOTR: ROTK has made about 222 million dollars over 12 days which puts it in 2nd place for a movie to break the 200 million dollar mark fastest...BEHIND Spiderman which did it in 9 days...woohoo spiderman is the best.
Why does everyone like spiderman so much? I don't see it. I just don't. It is no where in league with LOTR. I mean, seriously. LOTR is way deeper and has more levels than any Spiderman film could ever have. Besides, LOTR has some of the greatest epic battle scenes of all time not to mention a world full of hobbits, elves, wizards, orcs, nazgul, and urhu-kai. All Spiderman has is guy dressed in blue and red spandex and some of the most ridicules villians. And those scenes where spidey is flying through the air, how fake-looking is that?
And just to let you know, ROTK was 3 hours 45 minutes long. If the movie was shorter, more people would have been able to see it, thus allowing the movie to rake in more money than Spiderman. So if you think about it, ROTK really did beat Spiderman. Spidey just won on a technicality.
LOTR rocks and Spidey sucks!
Sorry if I'm being an ass but I just don't understand the whole spiderman frenzy. The movie was average. Better than some, but definitely worse than many, LOTR for instance.
LOTR is considered a masterpiece by many critics! and it's been aclaimed by them... spiderman got bad reviews... I think it sucks... and who cares about the box office succes, it does not determine the quality of a film, and you should know that already
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umm its kinda surprising how spiderman got 200 million in 9 days.n e wayz though i havent seen ROTK yet, i dont like the LOTR triology that much. nothing so special bout it. may b ROTK will change my mind
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spiderman was one of the better comic based flix, but as some have stated i also dont know how it generated so much cashflow, little kiddies i guess. LOTR Trilogy was very well done even if you never read the books as most of our ILLITERATE AMERICANS havn't heh, READ READ READ. (ok so i havnt read jack in awhile).
how many times do i have to say the same thing...the movie spiderman is based off the comics...comics are cheesy, predictable, silly, etc(at least the original superhero comics were) and the goal of the spiderman movie was to act like it was a comic book on screen..it's not supposed to be realistic at all...they did such a great job at showing us a comic book with actors, amazing job. And it's more fun to watch.
Also as i've said before lotr series is just plain boring...it also has a predictable and to me a silly plot as well, all the scenes "that bring out emotion in people" is all a load of crap, it's plain cheesy. A world full of "hobbits, elves, orcs, etc.." isn't exciting either. it's just a world with a variety of creatures but none that are really cool, the villians and allies in the comic book world in general feature some of the most amazing characters to watch and some of the best storylines to follow-don't think of spiderman the movie as just one universe, think of it as one movie in a giant universe(which is what it is) and the scenes where spidey is flying through the air are amazing, and they can't be perfect (because there is no spiderman) but they're breathtaking all the same. I can name more than a few scenes in lotr(the whole trilogy) where you can clearly tell they're in front of a blue screen...lotr is just a trilogy-it's nothing special in my opinion at least
113 u might just get a lot of bashing lol. although u have every right 4 ur opinion, i would never say LOTR is bad, not that u said it,just nothing special
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I can't believe people are comparing the LOTR trilogy to ... Spiderman of all things. Like 113 said, Spiderman is based on, and attempts to put into live action, the essence of a comic book. That said, i personally have to really hammer down on 113's view of LOTR. And though i contradict what i just attempted to relay by continuing contrasts between the two very different films... "creatures and characters that arent cool" what in the freaking heck kinda drugs are you on???? Obviously you are a hardcore spidey fan but sheesh to try and downgrade the quality of work that Peter Jackson's team did is kinda rediculous. LOTR is purely and simply EPIC in nature whereas Spiderman is super hero fights villain and gets girl. Not that its bad, but c'mon you cant consider it epic. (yes i realize at the end of the first Spidey movie he didnt really get the girl, but we all know whatsup.) LOTR being predctable?? its based on a really OLD book dude.. thus in that time such a story prolly wasnt that predictable. heh Jackson wasnt goin for "lets fool the audience" they were trying to interpret the book for film. haha, villians, storylines in comix are "amazing to watch"... yea kinda like soap operas for kids. Sorry i digress.. i love comics, i like quality movies based on them.. xmen was sweet, spidey was good, hulk wasnt too bad either (for entertainment). Just dont attempt to throw them in the same categories of epicness that LOTR is.
Don't hate on on spideys scenes being fake until you watch The Fellowship of the Ring when they're crossng that bridge and that fire monster thing comes up. I have to say that every aspect of THAT looked SO REAL.
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why is lotr epic and spidey not? i personally think comic books are way more epic than lotr, just cause comics don't have a bunch of speeches about courage and facing your fears an a bunch of slow high pitched music doesn't mean comic books or spiderman specifically isn't epic......and yes i stand by what i said..the characters in lotr aren't cool/amazing to watch/fun/exciting/awe-inspiring
and obviously your oversimplifying the whole comic book franchise and spiderman..i could say lotr is simply good vs evil with various characters splashed in-i mean that's my opinon of it
and sure even if at the time tolkien made lotr the storyline wasn't predictable it doesn't change the fact that NOW when these movie's come out that it IS predictable and typical, and that NOW you would think people would see that
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for the sake of controversy and debate:
why is your view of LOTR's "being predictable" (in your opinion) a valid argument for dissing the movie especialy in regards to spiderman as it is taking out of context of what the movie is. i mean heck, spiderman is totally predictable.. anyone think spidey was going to bite the dust and fall before the goblin's feet? heh, it was no more unpredictable than any of the rocky sequels. but it WAS entertaining. i agree that in some ways comic stories are epic, i'm an x-men/superman fan, read the comics for along time and they're epic in the sense that they are based in a "universe" not that LOTR isn't (tolkien and his successors have other books that describe other aspects of that world).
And Spiderman is not? Please, there is no real depth to spidey. All Spiderman does is obsess over that red-headed chick and battle some idiot in a green suit, who by the way is suppose to be suffering from a split personality disorder. LOTR does a way a better job with Smeagel/Gollum. You can actually see the conflict. So you see, the battle between good vs. evil is more complex than in spiderman. LOTR captures the emotional and pychological conflict within, which spidey fails to do.
I understand with what your saying about comics being their epics, I don't argue with that. But the characters in LOTR ARE more intereting. They are much more complex than Peter Parker. Plus, they are characters of all different races and customs. They each have their own unique history that all lends to the story of the the moviel. As I mentioned before there are hobbits, elves, wizards, orcs, Nazgul, Urhu-kai, and many others. So, don't presume to tell me that the characters in LOTR are not cool/amazing to watch/fun/exciting/awe-inspiring.
Tolken and Peter Jackson are both guinesses! Tolken for being the creater of such a wonderful and complex world. And Peter Jackson for brilliantly bringing it to life on the big screen.
Again Spiderman is much more than spiderman vs green goblin there's a whole marvel universe...personally i never found green goblin and interesting villian and his split personality frankly is boring to me-same with gollum/smeagal in lotr...and there is not much more than good vs evil in either series...in the case of split personalities it's just good vs evil within one's self...still boring
and i disgaree i think the characters in lotr are not interesting at all, and again peter parker isn't the only character in the marvel universe, each character in the marvel universe has their own history and story as well...and i gurantee you there are a ton more characters in the marvel universe than in Tolkien's universe...and again i'll say this: the characters in lotr are not cool/amazing to watch/fun/exciting/awe-inspiring cause they're not! and that's my opinion
Jedi,Rianna and Punker you all are awesome and are cool in my book.As you can tell from my sig below,I hated that movie BIG TIME.I love the character of spider-man as my user name proves,he's a great character,but honestly,this movie was one of the most horrible comicbook adaptations there was.The movie totally betrayed his character and the spirit of the comics.It was not at all a magical movie like Superman was.This movie COULD have been magical like Superman,but they had to go and dumb down his character by taking away his greatest scientific invention and as a result,we get a character who was not really all that interesting of an individual.There were some good points in the film such as the acting of William Defoe,but the negatives far outweighed the positives in the movie.the movie is so overated its unbelievable.Give me Lord Of the rings anyday.Again look at my sig below and you wont be surprised why I hate the movie so much.
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