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Why are Marvel Movies doing better than Star Wars Movies?

It begs the question if Disney can knock out successful Marvel movies one after another why can’t they do the same with Star Wars movies.


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Because they didn't plan the ST for SW...they just did whatever.


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ST?


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Better focus groups, much smaller and less rabid fanbase to offens, they' tend to be better overall, etc.


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Sequel trilogy.
It's because they don't respect the source material

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Much better planning and great leadership.

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Better focus groups, much smaller and less rabid fanbase to offens, they' tend to be better overall, etc.


Something like this, y'all gotta remember, Marvel and comics were considered kinda nerdy before Iron Man came out, now everybody and their dog is a Marvel expert.

SW and Star Trek fans have always been pretty touchy.

And just because one does well does not mean another would. If you had given all of Star Wars to feige and the Russo's, they could have very well ****ed it up even worse.

I also believe that Disney is a soulless Cash cow and we are going to be seeing a serious decline in movie quality from the Marvel department as well. I think Endgame really was the end.

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It begs the question if Disney can knock out successful Marvel movies one after another why can’t they do the same with Star Wars movies.



not necessarily a plan they had for star wars, however that is going to change


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They had an overarching plan up to Endgame and did the detail as they went. They rarely reacted to negative reviews of certain films (probably the only big tone change was in the Thor trilogy from Dark World to Ragnarok)

They also have better relationships between characters in the MCU and the only one they pulled back on was Banner and Natasha.


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Because they didn't plan the ST for SW...they just did whatever.


This is pretty much the answer. They had no real plan for the new movies, each movie was made without any real thought on how to connect to the next one. There was no coherent roadmap, if there was one at all.

Disney also less willing to take risks on who they gave the franchise to. With Marvel they would give movies to relatively unknown or up and coming indie directors. Like the Russos only directed a few television episodes before they directed Winter Soldier, if I'm not mistaken, now they've directed the highest grossing film of all time. Taika Waititi was known for a quirky vampire comedy, then they gave him the reins to Thorn. James Gunn was known for off the wall Troma horror movies, gave him Guardians of the Galaxy.

With Star Wars, aside from Rian Johnson, they've given their movies to very famous or mainstream directors or producers. Without risk, there won't be much reward for them.

This might be changing with Mandalorian. I hear Werner Herzog wants to do an episode next season, if he likes it maybe he'd do a Star Wars movie of some kind. I hope they learn from the success of Mandalorian, and see that doing something different and daring is what leads to success.


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Is the mandalorian that good?

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It's good. Not amazing, but it's compelling and it seems to have done the impossible - be enjoyed by the majority of Star Wars fans. And it's doing all that without Jedi or much stuff about the force. Essentially it's a western in the Star Wars universe.


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The planned them out for one. For two they actually like their core fanbase.

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Marvel plans the movies out in phases and with a competant team

With Star Wars they didn't have a plan at all, the ST is proof of that. Could say the OT is as well considering Leia turned out to be Luke's sister. erm


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I keep seeing ST, is that for sequel trilogy?

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Yeah, gets mistaken for Star Trek.


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It begs the question if Disney can knock out successful Marvel movies one after another why can’t they do the same with Star Wars movies.


Marvel Studios > Lucasfilm.

Same company, yes, but... different subsidiary, different people in charge of things.


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Also I would like to point out that Marvel just made movies based off of preestablished stories from the comics. I'm surprised no one brought that up already. Marvel already had 50 + years of stories to choose from. Makes it a lot easier.

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Also I would like to point out that Marvel just made movies based off of preestablished stories from the comics. I'm surprised no one brought that up already. Marvel already had 50 + years of stories to choose from. Makes it a lot easier.


Star Wars has comics and books they could’ve used


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