Both the Jedi and Sith were losers. The Jedi got their comeuppance when their chosen one was like "guys I'm kinda anxious and stressed out" and they said "feelings are dumb."
And the sith are just hungry dorks looking to get stronger and never winning
They weren't. Jedi methodology created peace and prosperity on a galactic scale for thousands of years. They just got outplayed by Palpatine.
Now, the Jedi did **** up. But their only real mistake as an organization was agreeing to train Anakin- and that's less a case of arrogance and more just bad writing. Their intuition was that Anakin was ****ed up but for some reason they threw out that intuition and centuries of protocol because... Qui-Gon died? That's it? That's all it took to go against a thousand years of wisdom?
Lucas is a hack.
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"The Daemon lied with every breath. It could not help itself but to deceive and dismay, to riddle and ruin. The more we conversed, the closer I drew to one singularly ineluctable fact: I would gain no wisdom here."
The exact moment of no return for the Jedi was in ROTS when Anakin has a sit down with Yoda and Yoda basically tells him to suck it up and be happy when Anakin who is clearly distraught comes to him about someone he cares about dying.
Thats their main man Yoda, wisest of them all who missed not only the proper teaching for Anakin in that moment but also somehow missed the fact that this kid had a serious loved one somewhere and somehow that didn't even register for him.
It was at the moment that their wisest failed one of their own that Sidious was able to truly capitalize and turn Anakin, thus creating the true fall of the Jedi.
Darth Maul is the unsung hero of Anakin's fall to the dark side. Him killing Qui-Gon robbed Anakin of the only Jedi sensitive enough to the Living Force to guide Anakin through all his hardships. He would have also figured out Sidious' plan as he was already on his trail as Senator Palpatine back on Naboo.
They didn't agree. Obi-Wan took it upon himself despite Yoda's vehemence against it. And, even if the Council did not approve of it, would have trained him anyway.
Last edited by ares834 on Jun 29th, 2020 at 07:04 PM
Shit like this is so stupid. Why the fcuk wouldn't he tell anyone? Especially once a Sith lord shows up and Palpatine is made a candidate for the Supreme Chancellor.
He didn't get the chance to. He had already basically had to beg the Jedi Council to let him investigate the suspicious paper trail and political shenanigans happening on Naboo. He got killed before he got the concrete evidence he'd need to get the Council to make a move. Due to his belief/connection to the Living Force, the rest of the Jedi saw him as that crazy guy who talked to the Force. Episodes 2 and 3 really point out just how far up their own asses the Council has their heads, so it makes sense why he didn't just say, "This is really weird, I've got a Force Hunch about that Sheev guy."
https://screenrant.com/star-wars-hi...d-stop-sidious/ - This perfectly explains it and makes it so much more painful when you realize if he'd won against Maul, Sidious might never have risen to power and SW history would have been altered.
Sorry, but it's stupid as shit. It doesn't matter if there is little to no evidence. He should have let someone know once things began to play out as they did. At least Obi-Wan.
And the Council never considered him crazy. He was highly respected. They did, however, consider him to be at times problematic and unconventional.
One thing that annoyed me was the fact that the Jedi never once help Anakin rescued his mom. We know the Jedi were rich as ****, no one can argued that fact, yet they allowed the chosen’s one mom to stay be a slave.
That was such idiotic story telling from Lucas, and the fact no one told him otherwise was just cringe worthy.
Also, the way Mace handled the whole showdown with Anakin and Sidious was retarted. It was his stupidity that got him kill.
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