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Mormegil
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Question Ishkhaqwi ai durugnul!

In the Fellowship of the Ring, (in the Extended version) Gimli says to the Elf the phrase in Khuzdul (Dwarvish): "Ishkhaqwi ai durugnul!" Does anyone know what it means?

From what I have heard, some people think it's "A curse upon the Elves and their stiff necks!"


What do you think?

Known Khuzdul is very little, but I do know the following (pertinent to this text):
ai - Upon


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Cool

I have no idea rolling on floor laughing


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There is another instance in which Khuzdul is used; during the journey through Moria, when Gimli sees the tomb of Balin, he says:

“Kilmin malur ni zaram kalil ra narag. Kheled-zâram... Balin tazlifi.”

Know what this means, anyone? Because I don't, (partially). Here's what I do know:
zaram=lake
narag=black
Kheled-zaram=Glass-lake
Balin=Balin


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Danistar
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Here is the correct translation.

gimli: Ishkhaqwi ai durugnul.

gimli: 'I spit upon your grave'


ishkhaqwi 'I spit'.

ai prep. 'upon', reduced form of aya (WR:20)

durugnul 'your grave'.


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'Oh you won't need ink.' said professor Umbridge, with the merest suggestion of a laugh in her voice.
EXTRA LESSONS WITH SNAPE -what on earth had he done to deserve this?
Amazing, how much more difficult it was to extend his arm tvelve inches and touch her hand than it was to snatch a speeding Snitch from midair.
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Mormegil
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Really? That's really cool... how'd you know that?


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In his short time the Orcs he slew
Were so many that Evil flew
At the mere mention of his name
He who killed foul things for game

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Danistar
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I found it here:

http://www.elvish.org/gwaith/movie_fotr.htm

http://www.elvish.org/gwaith/movie_ttt.htm

But there's no translation for the second fraze. no


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'Oh you won't need ink.' said professor Umbridge, with the merest suggestion of a laugh in her voice.
EXTRA LESSONS WITH SNAPE -what on earth had he done to deserve this?
Amazing, how much more difficult it was to extend his arm tvelve inches and touch her hand than it was to snatch a speeding Snitch from midair.
There are more qoutes in my profile.

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o thats cool...yea my friend learned elvish from a site like that...she did for a play of the hobbit


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ooo that's cool! i would like to be in LOTR play! I would have soooo much fun!!


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