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Vader in a different light
Now that we know just how Anakin turns to the darkside, does anyone else see Vader in a different light? When i first saw the OT i thought he was this bad ass dude that had no heart, no until ROTJ. Now with ROTS we learn that Anakin thought that everything he was doing was for the good of the republic (or so he thought), and trying to save Padme. With this knowledge i feel kinda sorry for Vader, as i dont think he realised what was going to happen in the end.
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I agree, to a point. I viewed Vader sympathetically up until the temple raid. Fro mthere onward, he was just as heartless and undeniably evil as the OT had us believing from the getgo.
This is my theory...Anakin is Anakin right up until he embraces the dark side for the first time. Then he becomes Vader. The dark side is so powerful that the second you submit to it, you're screwed. That is why I think it is such a quick transition. Anakin is Anakin right up until he is given the name Lord Vader, and he takes the initiative to slaughter people. Then he is evil beyond recognition, hence why he can even fight Obi-Wan, who is like a brother/father to him. Then, when Darth Vader finds out that his child is still alive, something goes off in his senses, and from Empire till the end of Jedi, he's in the same condition he was in that scene where he is torn and crying. In ROTS he was a slowly turning bad guy grasping onto good, in ROTJ and whatnot, he's a slowly turning good guy still slightly grasped on the bad. That is why he toys with Luke in their lightsaber fights and tries to talk him out of things. In ROTJ, he makes the full snap back into the light side, and the second he turns around to kill Palpatine, the light side flows through him as strongly as the dark side did in ROTS.
yeah i think the darkside is like a drug..its addicting..and when he cut off Mace's hand...that was it.... it was the dose of drug(darkside) he need it to get hooked on it.. u know?
Yes..the youngling slaughter is a terrible thing. But keep in mind Anakin only did it because he believed it would save Padme. His love for her was so great that he was willing to do ANYTHING to save her life.
I watched the OT after getting back from the cinema and in ROTJ there is one scene that sent a chill up my spine that is due only to viewing ROTS.
On Endor when Luke is presented to Vader, they have a talk then the stormies lead Luke off and Vader is alone and he moves to the side of the walkway and just stands there motionless. If the camera had changed to a different scene straight away then it would have been differend but instead it just fixed on Vader for a few seconds.
I always thought him saving Luke and killing the Emperor was a spare of the moment thing but after that scene I realise that Anakin starts to surface there. Then in the saberfight Luke absolutely owns Vader.... or Vader simply can't bring himself to kill his son...
I love this thread. This is totally how I feel. I definitely see the whole series in a different light now. And I really, really feel bad for Vader. There's something that's so addicting about ROTS too. Anakin's fall is so tragic, more tragic than anything I've seen in movies for quite some time.
NoFate007> Well said man. Very well said.
Batman316> I'm going to watch that right now. Thanks dude.
My friend's and I have been talking about this movie since May 19. We saw the midnight premiere. My brother really, really likes this movie, which he wasn't sure would be good or not after the two previous ones.
To be honest with you guys, I've noticed something: I read all the people complaining about Episodes 1 and 2, but have always sat back and said to myself they were okay. They weren't the best films of all time, but they didn't suck. I loved Episode 1, but Episode 2 I felt a little cheated near the end. Anyways, I still thought both were good movies.
But after watching ROTS, I think the other two films are a little dull in comparison now. I mean, ROTS had some strong emotion in it. It made all the films pale in comparison in my opinoin.
As a matter of fact, ROTS actually works well, even as a standalone movie. I could enjoy it if I never saw any Star Wars films. I think it's that good. You really don't have to know the background of the first two that much to enjoy ROTS.
Anyways, let me stop before I go on rambling, LOL.
Anakin wasn't born bad, he turned to the darkside through how he lived as we all know. Being able to know the whole story changes the perspective. I saw return of the jedi first so I never had the perception of a true dark lord as in episode 4. It affected me differently.
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May 21st, 2005 07:34 PM
