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king_arthur
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The Jedi had no right to arrest Palpatine

Palpatine still has the right to be Supreme Chancellor, even if he was recognized as a Sith.

What Mace and the other Jedi did was discrimination because they wanted to arrest Palpatine since he was a Sith. And according to Republic Law, stopping someone because of their religions or beliefs is discrimination. This is why what the Jedi did was treason.

It was explained in the novelization.

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DeVi| D0do
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no. you are TOTALLY off the mark.

Mace always had it in for palpatine, because mace was black and palpatine was white. discrimination occured over who got the last piece of pizza, and mace snapped.

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Here's why. Dooku told Obi about Sidious, Obi told Mace. Mace knew Palp was behind the war and everything at that point.


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So what? It was still a Coup d'etat. It was straight treason


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Here's why. Dooku told Obi about Sidious, Obi told Mace. Mace knew Palp was behind the war and everything at that point.

Palpatine controlled the senate. So if there was a trial, he would get free. I'm totally with Mace.

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Well i'm not. It was a Assasination attempt. It was just cuz Sidious was a Sith he thought Palpie had to die. Mace deserved his death. There's still one jedi who still thinks and dats Anakin


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darthmaul1
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It was treason from a certain point of view. the members of the republic know Palpatine is their leader and a good one, they only heard one side of the story, and Palpatine simply calls it treason cause the jedi are trying to take him out of power. The jedi know he is evil but no one else does.


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It was treason from every point of view. The jedi tried to take over


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Palpatine = bad.

Mace = idiot.

Palpatine had to go but Mace went the wrong way about it.

Kinda like Bush and Saddam.

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The jedi aren't easily manipulated. Even though the entire republic was under the control of Palps, the Jedi's were not. They saw things the way they actually were. An evil leader has manipulated and decieved his way into power, and they had to do what was necessary to make things right. The Jedi's knew that if Palps was to stay in power, countless millions and probably billions of people around the galaxy are going to die. Were they wrong? NO !!! palps kept his power didn't he, and how many people died because of it? Entire planets were destroyed in seconds with the death star.

Use your brain dude. The Jedi's ABSOLUTELY did the right thing, even though Mace did not. Every lie that palps told Anakin in the movie to turn him to the dark side, you believed didn't you Jango Fat? If it was you there, it would be hilarious how quickly you are manipulated:

Palps: Jango fat, you must side with me and destroy the republic and kill billions of people around the galaxy.

Jango fat: But wouldn't that be wrong?

Palps: No, of course not, it's the right thing to do, from a certain perspective.

Jango fat: Ok then, since you say it so convincingly, fuk it, lets kill em all, i'm with ya...

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Re: The Jedi had no right to arrest Palpatine

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Originally posted by king_arthur
Palpatine still has the right to be Supreme Chancellor, even if he was recognized as a Sith.

What Mace and the other Jedi did was discrimination because they wanted to arrest Palpatine since he was a Sith. And according to Republic Law, stopping someone because of their religions or beliefs is discrimination. This is why what the Jedi did was treason.

It was explained in the novelization.


That's why Mace realised it was better to kill Palpatine, not arrest him.

Vanquish: Quite right.

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Re: The Jedi had no right to arrest Palpatine

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Originally posted by king_arthur
Palpatine still has the right to be Supreme Chancellor, even if he was recognized as a Sith.

What Mace and the other Jedi did was discrimination because they wanted to arrest Palpatine since he was a Sith. And according to Republic Law, stopping someone because of their religions or beliefs is discrimination. This is why what the Jedi did was treason.

It was explained in the novelization.


Yes, but it's just like saying Hiltler was a nazi who killed innocent people but he was the head of State (actually a dictator, just like Palpatine) so he had the right to do so.
Do you realise what kind of bullsh*t you've just said?
I've read the novel and I didn't intend it that way, I think Palpatine was just using most of the senators' ignorance.


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kimmeh
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Sorry I stil havent read the novel and dont plan to, does it outline the enitre constitution of the Galactic Government or something? Seeing as how so many have described ROTS as a play on American politics I think its safe to assume that Luicas has the government in SW set up very much like ours.. which basically says that if you know of a threat that not only is it your right to take action.. it is your responsibility to do so... in which case Mace was in the right....


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darthmaul1
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How do you guys sleep at night? there is nothing racial or discrimatory about star wars what so ever! Sith are evil, jedi are good, it's just that most of the senate only knows what the chancelor told them and thats why they side with him.
according to republic law its treason?? what the hell is that?
Palpatine is simply saying it is treason to get people on his side like Anakin and the senate.


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