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kegs202
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Sith

I may be wrong on this but in the original trilogy I don't recall the word 'SITH' ever being mentioned. Was this a name that was created after the OT and used in the PT.

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Darth=Dark Lord of the Sith.


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Yeah but was the word sith ever said throughout the OT.

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I don't think it was. Like Palpatine's name, it might not have actually been said - yet everyone knew what it was/meant (courtesy of some fact file etc.)

My only guess is that Obi-Wan to Yoda etc.


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The word Sith was used in the OT.

Obi-Wan himself said it to Luke when talking about Darth Vader.


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No he didn't.


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"Vader was Sithduced by the dark side of the force..." sick

wait, that's probably from ROTJ when he was explaining Anakin to Luke...


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I could have sworn he did, but I just checked the scripts to back up my claims and I was wrong. erm


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Afraid not! One of those funny memory things I am afraid.

No, the term was not used in the OT, but it is always rumoured to be a term GL was throwing around for Vader's background. It was picked up by the EU, but often in a very contradictory manner because no-one was really sure what the term meant- in retrospect, it is obvious that there could be only two, else there would have been more bad guy force users in the OT.

As it is, GL didn't make it a canon term until TPM.


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Originally posted by Ushgarak
Afraid not! One of those funny memory things I am afraid.

No, the term was not used in the OT, but it is always rumoured to be a term GL was throwing around for Vader's background. It was picked up by the EU, but often in a very contradictory manner because no-one was really sure what the term meant- in retrospect, it is obvious that there could be only two, else there would have been more bad guy force users in the OT.

As it is, GL didn't make it a canon term until TPM.


No wait...wasn't the word Sith used in one of the opening scrolls? no expression I think that's where I saw it.


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Afraid not.


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No... the word Sith never appeared ANYWHERE in the OT.

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Afraid not.


Yeah, one of those weird memory things. erm

Although it does appear in the revised scripts posted online. stick out tongue


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Yeah, the concept of sith has never changed for Lucas.
Just because it wasn't used doesn't mean anything special.


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Originally posted by Ken Kenobi
No wait...wasn't the word Sith used in one of the opening scrolls? no expression I think that's where I saw it.
Ken, one of the older opening scrolls did mention "Darth Vader, a DARK LORD OF THE SITH" - but that was pulled for whatever reason. I'll look for that.


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Here we go, screencap from one of the original cuts:

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And clarification that SITH wasn't defined as only two back in 1976, or whenever this cut was produced:

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Where'd you find these?


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DeVi| D0do
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"Sith" is not an EU-created word. It is used by Lucas in his novel 'STAR WARS FROM THE ADVENTURES OF LUKE SKYWALKER' which was written in 1976...


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Why is a thread about the OT actually in a PT forum?


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