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Fight with Palpatine

Okay so this has always buged me how easy Fisto, Tiin, and Kolar died against Palpatine. I mean there supposed to be these awesome elite Jedi and some of the strongest ever and great blade wielders but Sidious kills them in 3seconds. They should have made a awesome fight between the 4 Jedi and Sidious and made it super bloody and close.

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are you suggesting that the PT sucked?


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It's almost as if the movie... didn't make much sense.


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are you suggesting that the PT sucked?


No. Just I think the fight could have been done better IMO.

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No. Just I think the fight could have been done better IMO.
Because the PT doesn't suck. Never, EVER think that. It's just... it's just not true.


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Couldn't Sid move faster than the eye can see? if so, then he'd just blitzed kolar and tiin, giving fisto just enough time to react, before dying a few seconds later


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Couldn't Sid move faster than the eye can see? if so, then he'd just blitzed kolar and tiin, giving fisto just enough time to react, before dying a few seconds later
Kolar was looking the other way for some reason,so it wouldn't take much skill to kill that twerp. And I could follow Sidious no problem.


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my interpretation is that I saw sid from his point of view, being the reason kolar and tiin looked like they were standing there like retards


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Although this is my opinion, and in no way am stating it as fact


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It'd be great if the film communicated that shift in perspective. Efficiency>creativity, I guess.


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Re: Fight with Palpatine

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Originally posted by ROTJ Vader
Okay so this has always buged me how easy Fisto, Tiin, and Kolar died against Palpatine. I mean there supposed to be these awesome elite Jedi and some of the strongest ever and great blade wielders but Sidious kills them in 3seconds. They should have made a awesome fight between the 4 Jedi and Sidious and made it super bloody and close.


Ha, some of these answers are great. Maybe they just needed a way to kill off 3 more Jedi and didn't want to show them killed during Order 66. Think of all the CGI building time and money they saved by having them cut down in 5 seconds by Sidius.

Before answering this I watched the fight on Youtube. Damn Mace kicked Sidius' butt. Sidius threw everything at him too, swordplay, dancing and flipping like Yoda, and force lightning and still Mace handled him without breaking a sweat.

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well thats the real problem. considering all of them were masters as well as council members...the "crem de la crem" if you will....it seems from what we saw that every jedi besides anakin, mace, obiwan and yoda were completely ineffectual weaklings.


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I thought it was sweet how fast he killed those Jedi. It's palpatine. Hes supposed to be super powerful. Who cares about those weak Jedi as there not important in the films. Probably just EU people who were upset

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I thought it was sweet how fast he killed those Jedi. It's palpatine. Hes supposed to be super powerful. Who cares about those weak Jedi as there not important in the films. Probably just EU people who were upset
Way to horribly miss the point.


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It was clearly just a way to empower Palpatine who had previously been acting like a pussy for the whole time. I personally thought it really worked as it demonstrated the immense power of Palpatine, and provided a gritty feel to the film as good guys like Fisto etc got owened in a matter of seconds. I think it made sense personally.


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It was clearly just a way to empower Palpatine who had previously been acting like a pussy for the whole time. I personally thought it really worked as it demonstrated the immense power of Palpatine, and provided a gritty feel to the film as good guys like Fisto etc got owened in a matter of seconds. I think it made sense personally.


Yep. Agreed. Although Palpatine was only biding his time until he was unleashed

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It only works if the greatness of those three masters had been established previously. Without turning to the novels, we don't know what Kolar, Tiin, or Fisto are capable of. We don't know how powerful they are or how skilled with a saber. Are they as great as Mace or Kenobi, or as shitty as Coleman Trebor? We don't know, the films never even give these three any dialogue, or mention their names, nevermind showcase what they can do. Palpatine cutting down these three total nobodies is just as impressive as him cutting down three crippled Younglings.


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It only works if the greatness of those three masters had been established previously. Without turning to the novels, we don't know what Kolar, Tiin, or Fisto are capable of. We don't know how powerful they are or how skilled with a saber. Are they as great as Mace or Kenobi, or as shitty as Coleman Trebor? We don't know, the films never even give these three any dialogue, or mention their names, nevermind showcase what they can do. Palpatine cutting down these three total nobodies is just as impressive as him cutting down three crippled Younglings.


I like how you think :P

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It only works if the greatness of those three masters had been established previously. Without turning to the novels, we don't know what Kolar, Tiin, or Fisto are capable of. We don't know how powerful they are or how skilled with a saber. Are they as great as Mace or Kenobi, or as shitty as Coleman Trebor? We don't know, the films never even give these three any dialogue, or mention their names, nevermind showcase what they can do. Palpatine cutting down these three total nobodies is just as impressive as him cutting down three crippled Younglings.

I think we can all agree the scene old have been better ... much better.


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