No, because Yoda lived to be a 900 year old Jedi and that means he has to have a lot of experience. So unless Luke became plder than Yoda, you might have something there, but he didn't
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if luke had proper jedi training and had been taken in when he was a baby then yes, i do believe he could best yoda in combat, but in the OT yoda could take luke down easily.
The whole Midicholorian thing is a bunch of bulls***. It was Lucas' way of fitting in a GIANT plot hole with the whole "Chosen one" thing.
He took the force from something mythical and amazing in the OT and turned it into a science. Way to go!
The truth is that Luke DOESN'T have a midi count because they don't exist then. Alas, how it should be.
With that said, I believe Luke could have been more powerful than Yoda if he had the proper training. (I'm not an EU guy by any means but doesn't he become almost godlike in the extended universe?)
I say no way, Master Yoda is the most powerful. Come on, no one else can move like that. And really, he owns those 2 guards when he walked in on sidious.
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Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader = 27,700
Darth Sidious/Palpatine (with Kyber Crystal) = 20,500
Yoda = 17,700
Luke Skywalker = 14,500
Leia Organa Solo = 14,500
Aenon Jurtis (Most powerful Jedi Master prior to Yoda) = 14,200
Shintor Beerus (ancient Jedi Master) = 13,900
Ce Ce Denowai (the most powerful female Jedi) = 13,700
Ben (Jhon) Skywalker = 13,700
Anakin Solo (New Jedi Order novels) = 13,700
Darth Plagueis (Darth Sidious' master) = 13,600
Count Dooku/Tyranus = 13,500
Obi-Wan Kenobi = 13,400
Kaja Sinis (the first Jedi) = 13,250
Kyle Katarn = 12,200
Mace Windu = 12,000
Darth Maul = 12,000
General Grievous (New Episode 3 Villain) = 11,900
Kit Fisto = 11,800
Exar Kun (Dark Lord of the Sith during the Sith War) = 11,700
Shindor = 11,500 (Dark Jedi from Episode 7)
Yaddle = 11,300
Xanatos' (Qui-Gon Jinn's former apprentice) = 11,300
Darth Seer (Founder of the modern Sith Order) = 11,200
Plo Koon = 11,100
Mara Jade = 11,000
Darth Malak (Knights of the Old Republic video game) = 10,800
Jedi Master Corran Horn (from the New Jedi Order series of Star Wars novels) = 10,700
Ki Adi Mundu = 10,600
Darth Bane = 10,500
Nebar Foxis (Jedi Knight played by SuperShadow in Episode 3) = 10,400
Joruus C'baoth = 10,350
Darth Imperius = 10,300
Shaak Ti = 10,300
Tahari Vehlia (New Jedi Order novels) = 10,300
Echuu-Shen Jon = 10,200
Darth Revan = 10,200 (Knights of the Old Republic video game)
Jedi Master Kam Solusar (New Jedi Order novels) = 10,100
Aalya Secura = 10,000
Qui-Gon Jinn = 10,000
Average Jedi = 10,000
Assajj Ventress = 9,600
Naga Sadow (Dark Lord of the Sith that fled to Yavin 4)= 9,400
Jedi Master Adeus Hust = 9,300
Jacen Solo (New Jedi Order novels) = 9,000
Jaina Solo (New Jedi Order novels) = 9,000
Jedi Master Cihgal (New Jedi Order novels) = 9,000
Darth Rage (Sidious' apprentice after Darth Maul) = 9,000
Jedi Master Tionne Solusar (New Jedi Order novels) = 8,500
Dezar Looger (Dagobah Dark Jedi) = 8,400
Xio Jade = 7,400
Chewbacca = 7,200
Tylus Liv = 7,100
Aurra Sing = 7,000
Need To be Considered for Training as a Jedi = 7,000
Padme Amidala = 4,700
Danni Quee (New Jedi Order Jedi Scientist)= 4,500
Beru Lars = 3,700
Shmi = 3,300
Lando Calrissian = 3,300
Boba Fett= 1,500
Han Solo = 1,500
Jango Fett = 1,500
however this was found at supershadow so it may be bs
Owen Lars = 1,500
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I think Luke would need to be trained by Yoda to defeat Yoda in combat cause to beat ones enimey you must learn how they think and fight.
Like count Dokoo movie II clonewars Yoda vs Dokoo he cheated stupid he use force pull to try and distract yoda to help Ani and Obi and he runs away like palps and their scared of a mini green dude lol but Dokoo put up more of a fight than palps in my oppion.
i believe there will be a 7-9.i got scripts,plots,and interviews.
Star Wars Episode 7
Plot Summary Script Synopsis Story
The Fallen Hero
by
George Lucas
Thirty years have passed since the Battle of Endor (Return of the Jedi), where both the Emperor and Vader met their doom. During the decades since Endor, the remnants of the Empire have been defeated and the New Republic formed out of the ashes of the Empire. However, enemies against the New Republic still exist. A rogue group of Dark Jedi have emerged that threaten the fragile stability that the New Republic enjoys.
The Cloud City of Bespin has been converted into one of the many Jedi training facilities located all throughout the galaxy. The Jedi's numbers are beginning to grow to Old Republic heights. The New Jedi Order consists of about 7,000 Jedi Knights. Bespin is now the home to both Jedi Masters, Knights and Apprentices.
During routine Jedi training on Bespin, the Dark Jedi invade wearing jet packs, which send them like a swarm dropping into the upper reaches of the cloud city. These Dark Jedi are seeking to re-establish the legacy of Darth Vader and, hence, they wear a more-advanced-looking version of Darth Vader's mask, helmet and body armor in honor of their fallen hero.
As the Dark Jedi attack Bespin, their sleek battle satellites swarm the floating city and rain down turbolaser fire on the city. The Jedi are taken by complete surprise. However, the Dark Jedi seek not to conquer Bespin, but to capture some of the Jedi's prized holocrons, which hold vast quantities of information about the ancient ways and customs of the Jedi. As hundreds of light-saber battles erupt between the Jedi and their Dark Jedi counterparts, some of the Dark Jedi use concussion grenades to cause damage to Bespin's superstructure.
A few of the holocrons are captured by the Dark Jedi. With their mission now complete, the Dark Jedi retreat from Cloud City and fly away from the city using their jet packs which they wear on their backs. The Dark Jedi fly into the nearby clouds and disappear. The roar of engines can be heard as the Dark Jedi escape in their customized Tie Rager star ships, which were hidden in the clouds above Cloud City.
The 12 members of the Jedi Council are present in the Jedi Council chamber in the Jedi Temple on Coruscant. Several Jedi, who survived the battle of Bespin against the Dark Jedi, relate to Luke Skywalker (the head of the Jedi Council) that several Jedi holocrons were taken during the battle. Luke informs the Jedi Council that the Jedi will have to find these lost holocrons and bring the Dark Jedi under control.
Meanwhile, just outside of the Jedi Temple, a shape-shifting Dark Jedi named Asp morphs into Ben Skywalker and enters the Jedi Temple. Asp makes his way to the Jedi super computer area where Asp hopes to disable the Jedi's computer network. Padawans Anakin Solo (son of Han Solo and Leia Organa) and Ben Skywalker (son of Luke Skywalker and Mara Jade) are walking by the computer area. They both sense something and enter the computer area. Ben and Anakin are shocked to see someone in the room that looks exactly like Ben. Asp sees the padawans and flees the room. Ben and Anakin chase after Asp.
Asp makes his way to the garage at the Jedi Temple and steals one of the Jedi swoop bikes. At a high rate of speed, Asp flies down the streets of Coruscant. Ben and Anakin each get a swoop bike and pursue Asp. After a thrilling chase, Asp wrecks his swoop bike. The Coruscant zoo is nearby and Asp enters the zoo to hide from Anakin and Ben. Anakin and Ben park their swoop bikes and quickly follow Asp into the zoo. A spectacular light-saber duel erupts between Asp vs. Ben and Anakin. As the duel rages on, Asp begins to lose so he uses his light saber to release Rygor tigers from their cage.
Ben sees the tigers and says: "I've got a bad feeling about this." The tigers spot Ben and Anakin and then charge at the two padawans. Ben and Anakin battle the tigers. Within in a few minutes, Ben and Anakin have killed all seven of the ferocious tigers. However, by the time Ben and Anakin are finished fighting the tigers, Asp has escaped to parts unknown.
Elsewhere, Shindor, the leader of the Dark Jedi, is elated to learn that some of the Jedi holocrons have successfully been taken from the Jedi. Shindor is currently at the Dark Jedi's cloning facility, which is located on a planet nearby Coruscant. Shindor is using this facility to make clones of Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker. The Dark Jedi plan to fulfill Darth Vader's prophecy that he and Luke should rule the galaxy as father and son and bring peace and order to the galaxy. The Dark Jedi are using Imperial DNA samples of Vader to produce a clone of the Dark Lord of the Sith and are using DNA samples from Luke's severed hand to produce a clone of the venerable Jedi Master. Skywalker's severed hand is currently owned by one of the chief Dark Jedi named, Spiden.
Meanwhile, Spiden hatches a plan to leak the Dark Jedi's efforts to clone Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker to spies working for the New Republic. Spiden hopes the leader of the Dark Jedi will be destroyed by forces from the New Republic so that he can become the new leader of the Dark Jedi. Spiden leaks this information. The New Republic military and a Jedi army plan to raid the Dark Jedi hideout.
Also, Spiden contacts Luke Skywalker and asks the great Jedi Master to meet with him on the planet of Sluivan. Spiden tells Luke that Spiden is a smuggler who came across Luke’s severed hand in a preservation box. Luke learns from Spiden that the Empire recovered Luke's hand that Vader cut off at Bespin. Spiden says that the hand is in perfect condition and can probably be re-attached to Luke’s arm. Luke agrees to meet Spiden on Sluivan.
Luke arrives on Sluivan with R2-D2 and C-3PO. Luke enters a room where Spiden told Luke he would be waiting for Luke. Luke sees Spiden holding his severed hand in a transparent preservation box. Suddenly, the door behind Luke closes. Spiden sets down the hand and pulls out two light sabers. Spiden holds one in each hand and ignites them. Spiden tells Luke that he will now avenge the deaths of Sidious and Vader. Luke pulls out his light saber and ignites it. Luke and Spiden fight with their sabers. Luke manages to cut off one of Spiden’s hands. Spiden continues to fight with his other hand. R2-D2 rolls up behind Spiden. R2 ignites his rocket boosters and crashes into the back of Spiden at a tremendous speed. Spiden falls to the ground. Spiden stands back up dazed. With a slight movement of his hand, Luke uses the Force to send Spiden flying across the room. Spiden slams into a wall and is left unconscious. Luke thanks R2 for his valor, then Luke recovers his severed hand and then cuts the closed door open with his light saber . Luke, R2 and C-3PO exit the room. On Coruscant, a team of Jedi doctors re-attach Luke’s hand to his arm.
Luke learns that the Republic is planning to send a military unit to the planet where the Dark Jedi are cloning Vader and Luke. Luke orders the Jedi star pilots to scramble to their fighters and join the Republic forces in the fight. The Republic and Jedi star fighters arrive at the planet where the Dark Jedi cloning facility is located. Hundreds of Dark Jedi fighters are waiting for them. A massive space battle ensues.
Luke and a dozen or so other Jedi make their way to the surface of the planet and enter the Dark Jedi cloning facility. Light saber battles erupt between the Jedi and the Dark Jedi. Luke finds the Dark Jedi leader, Shindor, and they engage in a light-saber duel. Luke eventually decapitates Shindor. The remaining Dark Jedi flee the cloning facility with the growing clones of Vader and Luke. The Jedi set explosive charges all over the cloning facility. The Jedi flee the cloning facility. A few minutes later, the cloning facility is destroyed by the exploding charges.
While the Dark Jedi cloning facility has been destroyed, the New Republic and Jedi are unaware that the Dark Jedi succeeded in preserving the growing clones of Vader and Luke, which will be utilized in the Dark Jedi's grand scheme to conquer the galaxy. Back on Coruscant, Anakin Solo and Ben Skywalker are brought before the Jedi Council. For their bravery in combating the Dark Jedi, the Jedi Council makes Anakin and Ben full-fledged Jedi Knights. The two are given their official Jedi robes. Fade to black. Roll end credits.
Star Wars Episode 8
Script Plot Summary Synopsis Story
The Republic in Crisis
by
George Lucas
After having their secret base destroyed by the Jedi Order in Episode 7, the Dark Jedi decide to remain hidden and underground until the clones of Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker have fully developed. Meanwhile, the Republic faces a new war from a large group of super commandos who call themselves the Mandalorians. The Mandalorian super commandos originate from the unknown regions of the galaxy. While training on the planet called Nassius, special units of the Republic military are attacked by the Mandalorians. The fighting is fierce and very spectacular. The Republic units are defeated in a large-scale space and land battle. After being victorious, the Mandalorians retreat to the safety of deep space.
Meanwhile, Luke Skywalker, Mara Jade, C-3PO and R2-D2 are on a secret mission to Mon Calamari. Luke is searching for the legendary kyber crystals that are rumored to be hidden on Mon Calamari. A kyber crystal greatly magnifies the power of the Force in whoever wears the crystal. Luke and Company come across a smuggler who claims to know where the kyber crystals might be hidden. For a high price, the smuggler gives Luke the location where the crystals might be. Luke, Jade, C-3PO and R2-D2 arrive at this secret location and startle some thieves who have beaten them to the crystals. The thieves see Luke and company. These thieves immediately flee in their hydro foil water boat over the great ocean of Mon Calamari. Skywalker and company give chase in their own hydro foil.
After a spectacular chase sequence on the Listinik Ocean, Luke and company manage to overtake the thieves' boat and retrieve the kyber crystals. With the crystals in hand, Skywalker and company leave Mon Calamari and head back to Coruscant.
On Coruscant, the Republic Senate has voted to increase their military budget in order to defeat the mysterious Mandalorian super commandos.
Somewhere else on Coruscant, Luke, Jade, C-3PO and R2-D2 arrive back home and meet up with Han Solo, Leia Solo, Lando Calrissian and Chewbacca. Han informs Luke that Han, Lando and Chewbacca will scout out the location of the hidden Mandalorian fleet. Luke tells Han to take R2-D2 to help with the mission. Leia decides to remain on Coruscant to meet with some powerful Senators regarding the difficult war with the Mandalorians.
Han, Lando, Chewbacca, R2-D2 and a Bothan named Terk Minas board the Millennium Falcon and head into space looking for the Mandalorian fleet. Meanwhile, Ben Skywalker (the son of Luke Skywalker and Mara Jade), with his Jedi girlfriend named Paron Lighton, are attempting to make the Kessel Run in record time. Together, Ben and Paron fly a two seat fighter with Ben as the pilot and Paron as the navigator. After much excitement, Ben and Paron complete the Kessel Run, but fall short of setting any kind of record. They know that it will take many attempts for them to come close to breaking the record set for completing the Kessel Run.
Meanwhile back on Coruscant, Luke and Mara Jade are told about a group of Mandalorian fighters that are battling Rogue Squadron. Luke scrambles the Jedi star fighters to help Rogue Squadron. Luke and Jade board two fighters. Luke, Jade and the Jedi strike force enter hyperspace and arrive at the battle. The fighting is very hectic. Several of Rogue Squadron’s fighters have been destroyed. Luke and company enter the battle. Jade’s ship is disabled and Mara Jade is captured by the Mandalorians. Luke tries to reach the Mandalorian cruiser that has Jade. Several Mandalorian fighters attack Luke’s X-Wing. Luke’s X-Wing spirals out of control. The Mandalorians quickly leave the battle with Mara Jade. The life support system of Luke’s X-Wing has been knocked offline. Luke is forced to enter Force hibernation so that he can survive until he is rescued. Soon, Luke is rescued by what’s left of Rogue Squadron. They head back for the safety of Coruscant.
In deep space, Han and company in the Millennium Falcon have stumbled across the Mandalorian fleet. Han sends the location of the Mandalorian fleet back to the Republic military’s headquarters. Dozens of Mandalorian fighters are sent to take out the Falcon. Han and Lando take control of the Falcon’s laser cannons while Chewbacca pilots the Falcon. The Mandalorian fighters chase after the Falcon and damage the Falcon’s hyperdrive. R2-D2 informs Chewie that the closest inhabited planet is the Wookiee home world called Kashyyyk.
Chewie heads for Kashyyyk with the Mandalorian fighters closing in on them. After much fighting, Han and Lando manage to take out all the Mandalorian fighters with the Falcon’s turbo lasers. However, the Falcon has been badly damaged. The Falcon safely arrives at Kashyyyk and Chewie lands the Falcon at a space port that is closest to where Chewbacca’s brother lives. Chewbacca has R2-D2 record a message that is to be given to Chewie’s brother. R2-D2 exits the Falcon and heads in the general direction of where Chewie’s brother lives. While R2-D2 is gone, Han, Chewie, Lando and Terk attempt to repair the Falcon.
Meanwhile, Ben Skywalker and Paron Lighton arrive on Coruscant and meet up with Anakin Solo (the son of Han Solo and Princess Leia Organa Solo) to have drinks at a local night club. While in the night club, Ben, Paron and Anakin are attacked by several thugs. Paron says: “I have a bad feeling about this.” Anakin uses several Force fireballs to take out a couple of the thugs. At the same time, Ben unleashes a Force avalanche which causes a nearby wall to fall on several of the thugs. Paron ignites her light saber and takes out some of the thugs. In a few minutes, the three Jedi have prevailed over the thugs and decide to leave the night club.
Elsewhere on Coruscant, Luke heads to his apartment on. Luke enters his apartment and feels a tremor in the Force. Someone is in Luke’s apartment. Luke turns on his light saber and looks around. The Dark Jedi named Spiden walks out of the shadows with his light saber on. Spiden tells Luke that Luke should have killed him while Luke had the chance. The two engage in a dramatic light-saber duel. During the duel, Spiden informs Luke that the Jedi failed to destroy the clones of Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker. Luke is stunned by this revelation. The duel continues and eventually Luke manages to cut Spiden in half from Spiden’s head all the way to the bottom of Spiden’s torso.
Meanwhile, R2-D2 arrives at Chewie’s brother’s home and plays Chewie’s message for Chewie’s brother. The message tells Chewie’s brother that Chewie and his friends need help securing a new hyperdrive for the Falcon. Chewie’s brother immediately leaves with R2-D2 to find a new hyperdrive.
Republic spies send a message to Luke that the location of Mara Jade has been found. Luke is elated by this news. The spies inform Luke that Jade can be found on the planet Concorde Dawn, the home world of the Mandalorians. Luke contacts the Jedi temple and states that he will need several hundred Jedi star fighters to accompany him to free Jade from the Mandalorians. Luke invites Ben, Paron and Anakin to accompany the Jedi to rescue Jade. On Kashyyyk, Chewie’s brother and R2-D2 arrive at the Falcon with a new hyperdrive. Luke contacts Han and tells Han that the Falcon is needed to help Luke rescue Mara Jade. Han tells Luke that the Falcon will meet up with Luke as soon as possible.
Republic spies further inform Luke that the Mandalorians are building thousands of new battle cruisers and fighters that will be used by the Mandalorians to conquer the Republic. Luke knows this Mandalorian fleet must be destroyed at all costs. Luke contacts the Republic military and tells the military to meet Luke at a rendezvous destination. As Luke leaves for battle, Leia says: "May the Force be with you." A few minutes later, Luke and many Jedi in their star fighters wait in deep space for the Republic military and the Millennium Falcon to arrive.
After a few hours, both the Millennium Falcon and the Republic fleet meet up with Luke and the Jedi warriors. They enter hyperspace and soon arrive at Concorde Dawn. Luke spots a gigantic star ship construction yard that orbits Concorde Dawn. Thousands of Mandalorian battle cruisers and fighters can be seen under construction. Luke and company target this construction yard. Hundreds of Mandalorian star fighters and battle cruisers are launched from the surface of Concorde Dawn. A massive space battle between thousands of star ships erupts above Concorde Dawn.
Luke locates Mara Jade’s position on Concorde Dawn. Luke asks Ben, Paron and Anakin to accompany him to rescue Jade. The four Jedi arrive on the surface of Coruscant and enter a Mandalorian facility where Jade is being held. Paron uses the Force to read a Mandalorian’s guards mind. By reading this guard’s mind, Paron is able to know exactly where Jade is being hidden in the building. Luke, Ben, Paron and Anakin ignite their light sabers and battle their way thru dozens of Mandalorian super commandos and Agork wolves to reach Jade. Paron is killed during the fighting, but Luke manages to rescue Jade. Luke, Jade and Anakin exit the Mandalorian facility. Ben exits with the body of Paron slung over his back.
Jun 3rd, 2005 03:12 PM
but Dokoo put up more of a fight than palps in my oppion. 
