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Darth_Hexus
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why was there blood when....

why was there blood when obiwan chopped that buttfaced looking aliens arm off, but when luke's hand is cauterized(!!!yes burn!!!) it just burn the skin


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You didn't know Obi Wan put an uber crystal in his lightsaber to make wounds bleed because he is mean? Oh, I thought this was common knowledge...

Honestly, we've all thought about it, thought about making a thread and then realized, "Hey, that would be a waste of a thread!"


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Well, different meats do take different times to cook, perhaps that particular species' flesh was slightly more resistant to cauterization that Human flesh...


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thats pretty good statement, but luke's lightsaber did burn off a scale from that lava dragon to recruit gantoris


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Have you noticed that when lightsabers make contact with flesh in ANH that they do different tricks than the other movies,

Aqualish's arm=blood.
Obi-Wan chopped in half=disappearing act.

All other saber wounds=burned shut.

ANH sets out different outlines for SW than anything else in the movies or EU. It's the original, all the OTHERS are the stupid ones who made mistakes.


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Maul gave out some blood, though.


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That looked kinda like evaporated blood.

Anyway, when Luke cut off the arm of the Wampa, it also bled. I honestly have no idea why, but the OT seems a lot less consistent than the PT on these things.


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Fact is, there 'should' be blood (inverted commas there because of the nature of 'should' in a totally non-scientific fictional setting), because even if the wounds are burnt shut, some of it is going to get out. ANH looks about right.

Trouble was, in the PT, it was going to look pretty darn un-PG if they followed that logic through like they had before.


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Originally posted by DarthMaul9123
thats pretty good statement, but luke's lightsaber did burn off a scale from that lava dragon to recruit gantoris

Thanks smile In the EU, the power and intensity of a saber's blade was supposed to be adjustable, yet there was never an onscreen example of that. However, to accept it purely as burning off a scale, see my below answer...

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Maul gave out some blood, though.

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That looked kinda like evaporated blood.

Anyway, when Luke cut off the arm of the Wampa, it also bled. I honestly have no idea why, but the OT seems a lot less consistent than the PT on these things.

Different species, so more examples of different flesh reacting differently to the effects of the saber's blade...


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Apparently all spieces of metal react the same way then! stick out tongue

Can you explain why Agen Kolar didnt start bleeding when he was run through with a lightsaber?


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Oh yeah, I am sure THAT is the reason for Maul. Different species. Sure.


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laughing Yeah!


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Apparently all spieces of metal react the same way then! stick out tongue

Apparently they don't, as cortosis ore and phrik alloy are both resistant to lightsaber blades.

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Can you explain why Agen Kolar didnt start bleeding when he was run through with a lightsaber?

Different angle of attack. As you said, he was run through, not bisected as Maul was. That means a much smaller wound with much less blood escaping, and due to the nature of the attack, any blood that did leak from the wound would have been evaporated by contact the blade (note how in Clone Wars the blades 'steamed' in the rain...)


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Originally posted by Ushgarak
Oh yeah, I am sure THAT is the reason for Maul. Different species. Sure.

Do you disagree that different meats cook at different temperatures and require different cooking times?


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^no, I think he means it's pure speculation. Lucas most likely didn't sit back and say "hmm....Maul's flesh is going to cook at different temps than let's say a Wampa since he's a different species, so let's not make him bleed as much..."

Of course, you're entitled to your own assumption.

In the PG-kid friendly TPM movie, they weren't gonna show Maul's intestines falling out of his midsection as he fell down the shaft


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^no, I think he means it's pure speculation. Lucas most likely didn't sit back and say "hmm....Maul's flesh is going to cook at different temps than let's say a Wampa since he's a different species, so let's not make him bleed as much..."

Given Lucas' 'creative talents', I doubt he does much thinking about anything when he sits down to write.

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Of course, you're entitled to your own assumption.

Someone posed a question, I suggested a plausible answer with basis in fact. Do you have a problem with that?

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In the PG-kid friendly TPM movie, they weren't gonna show Maul's intestines falling out of his midsection as he fell down the shaft

So instead, they show a spray of blood as he got bisected, essentially showing as much gore as would be allowed, seeing as the bisected body was then seen in it's totality.


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Originally posted by Tangible God
Have you noticed that when lightsabers make contact with flesh in ANH that they do different tricks than the other movies,

Aqualish's arm=blood.
Obi-Wan chopped in half=disappearing act.

All other saber wounds=burned shut.

ANH sets out different outlines for SW than anything else in the movies or EU. It's the original, all the OTHERS are the stupid ones who made mistakes.

i think it should all be like ANH cause that was the original y' know


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Laugh

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Originally posted by Ushgarak
Oh yeah, I am sure THAT is the reason for Maul. Different species. Sure.


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Re: why was there blood when....

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Originally posted by DarthMaul9123
why was there blood when obiwan chopped that buttfaced looking aliens arm off, but when luke's hand is cauterized(!!!yes burn!!!) it just burn the skin


It was a genuine mistake that Lucas has admitted to. no expression


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Darth Vious
Someone posed a question, I suggested a plausible answer with basis in fact. Do you have a problem with that?


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Why would I have a problem with it if I said "of course, you're entitled to your own assumption?" In fact, I actually think your explanation for Maul's encounter with the saber attributed to being a different species is pretty creative.

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So instead, they show a spray of blood as he got bisected, essentially showing as much gore as would be allowed, seeing as the bisected body was then seen in it's totality.


His body split asunder is totally different than guts falling out of his torso. It's more comical than anything. You see Tom & Jerry do that to each other all the time, but you don't see Tom's intestines flailing about, spewing feces and bile all over... wink


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