Yeah, yeah. I'm sure there's a thread about the film somewhere, although a search didn't produce any real solid results, talking about the movie itself. C'mon, it's me, C-Dic. I can get away with this, right? Anywho, my Hollywood Video got next week's releases in, and tired as I may have been after work, I popped in "Saw 2" at 1:00 A.M, sacrificing sleep, and surrendering to the posibility I may get a visit from the Nightmare Fairy.
I'll just come right out and say it, man. I thought it was a great, great ****ing movie. In a nutshell, I appreciated the new mature direction, presentation, and tone. Also, I thought the decisive situations in which the "victims" were placed in were more intense and clever. Casting, too, was a total 180 from the original. No annoying, whiny Ken dolls in the lead role; instead a very convincing (and surprisingly effective) Donnie Wahlberg at the helm, and a solid supporting cast. Especially Tobin Bell, and his twisted sense of "humanity", which he displayed flawlessly. I really liked, and appreciated, how they opened Jigsaw up..figuratively, of course.
My only gripe about the movie is that I felt they made Jigsaw/John's scheme a little more complex than necessary. I'll spoiler tag some of it for those who haven't seen it.
[SPOILER - highlight to read]: We learn in the end that John had taken Amanda under his wing, after she survived and was "reborn". Now, John more or less tutored Amanda, who wanted to teach Detective Matthews a lesson. She took his son, and 7 other people who had been framed/wrongfully accused by Matthews. What was the point? They were victimized to begin with, so why the double dose? Sure they were all jailbirds at some point, but chosing them in particular made little sense to me. Perhaps, had they learned that Daniel was the detective's son, the game would have been over sooner? Maybe, had Amanda not survived, someone would have figured out the connection and used the rest of the game as their own revenge? Who's to say, the plot was just a little shaky, especially when Jigsaw was relegated to the background...which indeed made me wonder who's game it was afterall.
Just a little bump in the road that could more or less be chalked up to "what if's" or just simply drawing your own conclusion.
Anyway, I was pleasantly surprised with this one. So much so, I'll probably end up owning it. It's really nice to see Lions Gate correct their past mistakes, be able to work with a moderate budget, and actually turn out what I consider to be, a very solid, respectible thriller that outdoes it's predecessor tenfold.
Kudos, LGF.
Last edited by Cory Chaos on Feb 9th, 2006 at 09:37 AM
I heard so many mixed reviews about Saw II, so I don't know what to expect. I'm gonna rent it out of morbid curiosity, and I'm hoping that it's nowhere in the vicinity of "god-awful-ness" like the first Saw. The one solid thing that I have gathered from word of mouth reviews, much like C-Dic's above statement, is that II is exceptionaly better than the first. So, I guess thats a plus, if anything.
It's the morning, I didn't have any nightmares, and I still feel the same way. Loved it.
Seriously, though. It's definately worth a rent, if not only to see [SPOILER - highlight to read]: the ******* of the gang, Xavier the Latino, get his throat sliced open at the hands of Daniel by a hacksaw. Yes, hacksaw, producing one of the bloodiest slit throat scenes in Horror movie history.
Just saw it, and while I agree as a whole it's better then the first, it still suffered from the "everyone is stupid" syndrome that plagued the first movie. You'd think that after Jigsaw's history, and Eric being a cop, he'd know not to trust him.
My only problem was that I knew what the twist with the killer would be, after watching the trailer once! Other than that, I thought it was a good movie.
I saw the sequel a week ago and i must admit that i was pleasently surprised! The sequel is sooo much more fun to watch, it's more entertaining and a lot more gore...can't wait for the dvd release!
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I was dissappointed the SAW puppet merely had a cameo in this film. I thought he was terribly erie in the first film. Maybe because you were not really sure who was killing people and here comes this crazy looking talking puppet ... maybe since you know the killer is human and now the puppet is just a puppet takes away from it maybe ? i dont know ... there just should have been more of the puppet riding the tricycle around .. that shit is insane!
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EXACTLY! Finally, someone who agrees with me that their acting totally sucked. I laughed while the guy cut his own foot off, cause the acting was so horribly DUMB!
I kinda like her picture! For us girls it beats another pic of a dumb blonde
with big breasts!!
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Anywho, my Hollywood Video got next week's releases in, and tired as I may have been after work, I popped in "Saw 2" at 1:00 A.M, sacrificing sleep, and surrendering to the posibility I may get a visit from the Nightmare Fairy.
Feb 9th, 2006 09:34 AM
