Darth Nihilus

I have beaten KOTOR 2 on the light side, but i am still wondering exactly who Darth Nihilus is. I mean, after I beat him on the bridge of the ship, i got no explanation of his origin or any background knowledge. I am just curious to find out where he came from and so on. Does anyone know?

There are some theories that he is actually a reflection of the Exile, the way both are Voids in the Force etc.

I think he represents just what can happen to someone when they fall so far to the dark side. He drains life from everything around him and like Morridini said is a void in the Force.

I don't think he's human, however. Note he doesn't speak any language we've ever heard.

Or perhaps he's just that corrupted.

What? If you gain enough dark points your throat collapses? I find that hard to believe, man.

^^^LOL! Yeah..I bet they don'y mention THAT during Sith training.

Maybe it's an ancient Sith diologue. As far as Nihilus goes I think he's just lost all of his human side. I dunno..didn't really like the KOTOR2 plot very much.

Visas says's he's "just a man" but then again she's blind, I wouldn't be betting on what she sees:-)

I've heard the rumours that Morridini has heard of, and I believe that it may be the correct answer....
Then again, when I started playing it the first time, I thought it was supposed to be Revan....and now I can't remember how that whole situation turned out.....😛

I stopped by the Obsidian forums and found some interesting posts.

originaly posted by AromisTallionJan
Darth Nihilus is The Exile

I state this idea in the fact of when The Exile fights in the Mandalorian Wars he/she starts to turn to the darkside with each battle, not really realizing it at the time and then by the final showdown at Malachor V the dark side energy , has a significant pull on his/her emotions and tries to pull him/her to Dark side as a channel for it's energy. When the war ends The Exile rejects the force and the Darkside Energy from his/her body, causing the Wound in the Force. This could concievably cause a Force Specter, that would draw energy from the other beings to sustain its form and tangibility within the universe. This would have created the being now known as Darth Nihilus, Darth Traya could have found the specter wandering the outlying region of Malachor and would have taken it in as a pupil to teach it everything about the dark side of the force. She would have also taught the spector to feed of of other beings and to use the force to give it a shape. Then donning the black robes and the white mask it could travel unhindered.

When the Exile boards the Ravager he/she slays all of the crew on board, taking away a source of power from Darth Nihilus, and then when Darth Nihilus tries to Drain the Exile and encounters the wound in the force that the Exile has become he is powerless against it. The Exile is "using borrowed powers" from the others that he has gathered. Therefore the Exile isn't really using the force so much as siphoning it from the other party members, like Darth Nihilus does, then when Darth Nihilus "dies" you ask Visas to bring you the mask, opening you to the force again as the "body" of Darth Nihilus vaporizes. Visas tells the exile that she saw a graveyard when she looked upon Darth Nihilus. That would also explain why the Exile and Kreia have the bond, due to the fact that Darth Nihilus is another part of you.

and also

originaly posted by Saint
I personally like the idea that Nihilus is a part of the Exile - as you go through the game there are several places where either Kreia, Visas or the Lost Jedi Masters describe exactly who and what you are and also describe what exactly Nihilus is, and as most people know you are exactly the same kind of being - a wound in the force, albeit the two of them seem to take on a different aspect of that. Where Nihilus sucks the force into himself, The Exile's power makes him a leader and gives him the ability to compel and coerce through the force.

There is also the fact that Nihilus and the Exile became what they are at exactly the same time in exactly the same place and as a result of the exact same event. It makes sense to me that The Exile went to Malachor V and did what he did - the implications of that massacre in the force was that The Exile cut himself off from the force to avoid dying as a result of being connected to all those lives, but what it seems to me that he could have been cut off due to his nature being split somehow. Perhaps the "wound" in the force refers to the Exile being split in two, creating two beings that are kind of opposite but the same and would naturally seek each other out.

The Exile cut himself off from the force sure enough, but in doing so he had to redirect all of that darkness and hunger into something else - thus Nihilus is created. This would explain a lot of things about Nihilus himself and why he/she (honestly in that outfit he could be either) appears to be so inhuman - because everything he is revolves around his hunger.. in a sense that is all that he is. When Nihilus tries to feed on the Exile he basically kills himself because it is like feeding on himself. The Exile is able to easily defeat Nihilus because he is the whole person, while Nihilus is only a piece of the whole - a piece that the Exile has replaced by reconnecting himself to the force.

This would also explain why Visas is able to sense The Exile and latches onto him - she has a bond with Nihilus and thus she also has a bond to The Exile. It could also explain The Exile's bond to Kreia - she was Nihilus' master and was probably bonded to him, which also bonder her to The Exile. Then you also have what someone else said about Visas, how she never really tells you what Nihilus looks like - she saw the Exile's face and decided that she didn't want him to know.

Anyway that is my thought on it.

Any thoughts?

The storyline was rushed at the end. I was not pleased. The ending left me less fulfilled than the whopping 30 second reels in KOTOR 1

Absolutely fascinating. Now, tell me...

Why the hell wasn't that explained somewhere in the fifty follar game I bought and played for about 30 hours?

DJ> I don't remember the end, so I can't comment on that.....😛
Morridini> Very interesting indeed.....😉

I can paraphase the ending here.

SPOILER ALERT.... like anyone cares.

You go to Malachor V. The Ebon Hawk crashes because Atton is drunk. (Okay, maybe not). You get out. You wander around. Find a Sith academy and fight numerous hordes of elite dark Jedi but you basically own them because you're the best thing since sliced bread. Cut scene to Mira. She kills the wook. No one cares. She walks on, but basically doesn't show up ever again in the storyline. The little remote activates all these shield generators and gets harassed by the big stupid ball known as Go-To. Again, no one cares, and nothing becomes of it. You fight Sion. In the one whole interesting point about this section of the game (aside from all the badass crystals you get that you can't install until you almost complete the damn academy) you actually have to weaken his resolve to defeat him, instead of whup him mercilessly. Then you meet Darth Traya. Meaning babble. You whup her but had a close encounter with those damn floating lightsabers. She gives you the option to look into the future, but it's all pretty vague and with some people she just doesn't say anything at all. Certainly not worth $3.96 a minute. Then, she apparently dies instantaneously after saying all this when you choose to end the conversation, and you take off. The Ebon Hawk, which apparently survived the crash and subsequent fall, picks you up. You blast off into space and Malachor V just kinda implodes.

I liked the game up until this planet. Something about the rushed storyline, the gaps, the lack of all those Jedi I had trained, just irked me.

Hmph.
Now I remember why I was pissed off. 😛

That was only the Light Side ending.
In the Dark side version Mira was dead since Nar Shadda, so there was nothing with her or the Wookkie. And after Traya died, we stayed on Malachor V and it didn't explode, the camera just zoomed away.

I didn't finish the Dark Side Game. 😉

I just started mine

I doubt Nihilus is part of the exile....I think he's a dark jedi (sith) that works almost the same way as the exile....by feeding off the energy of others

I started my dark side game, but I found out a Jedi consular with two weapon fighting can't kill Master Vrook very well. True, I dominated with sheer Force power, making half the game a breeze. And being evil changed the gameplay a bit more than it did in KOTOR I, but whatever you guys do, don't pick a consular unless you go with dueling. The Jedi Masters are two hit kill wonders.

Needless to say, I restarted my dark side game, again as a Guardian with dueling. I feel a bit lazy doing so, but I don't worry too much about it anymore.