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im Just sick of people assuming that vader used the gloves to block the bolts, clearly He used the force to do so, a technique which yoda and dooku used to block lightning.
No where does it ever state he cant block lightning eventhough he dies upon contact. How can it kill him If the lightning hits the layer of the force vader creates? The lightning doesnt obviously go through the layer of the force, thats the sole purpose of dissipation or deflection.
Last edited by BoratBorat on Dec 29th, 2006 at 07:37 PM
As Escape continues to tell me, you can't assume you are Lucas and think what he was thinking. He could have been thinking Deflection, or he could have been thinking gloves. The movie shows, as Kadesh shows with the snap by snap picture & explanation, that Vader probably did use Force Deflection and dissipation.
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irrelevant. Lucas just doesn't mention it one way or the other. But i also don't recall a hole in the glove...what kind of super gloves are these that a laser cant burn a whole in them? Isitoners on steroids? C'mon Ox, you're smarter than that.
I personally think it is bull that Vader can now somehow block lightning as his robotic self, force or no force. But seeing I cant come up with an argument against it right now I shall let it slide.
"No where does it ever state he cant block lightning eventhough he dies upon contact. How can it kill him If the lightning hits the layer of the force vader creates? The lightning doesnt obviously go through the layer of the force, thats the sole purpose of dissipation or deflection"
the ep 3 visual guide clearly states that due to his prosthetics he will never be able to use or deflect force lightning. if you want a direct quote i can get the book out for you.
Why Vader's gloves are deflecting blaster bolts (from the StarWars.com databank discussing Vader's suit):
"He wears a suit of quilted flexible blast-dampening multi-ply padding, and a cloak of armor weave. His gloves are made with a unique micronized iron that can deflect anything short of a lightsaber blow."
Why Vader's gloves are NOT deflecting blaster bolts (solely my opinion):
1. I highly doubt that Vader was hanging out firing blasters at his hands to see if they could penetrate his gloves. However, he was obviously confident that blaster fire couldn't touch him.
2. Blaster bolts are "light-based energy." These shots are traveling at light-speed! You have to have Jedi (i.e. Force-attuned) reflexes to even block the shot at all! I mean, you gotta have better hand-eye coordination than Barry Bonds.
3. Simply put, Vader is a bad MF and can do pretty much whatever the hell he wants to do.
Like I said, this is a pointless argument. I don't recall off the top of my head anywhere else where Vader blocks a blaster shot with his hands. If the official website says that his gloves can "DEFLECT anything short of a lightsaber blow," then I assume that the Han Solo scene in ESB is the support for that statement about Vader's gloves. My belief is that Vader uses the Force for his lightning-quick reflexes, but the gloves actually absorb and deflect the blasts.
My question now is this: how come it seems that no Jedi used deflection during the execution of Order 66?
Great shots of the scene, though! All the times I've seen the ESB, and I NEVER noticed the deflected shot into the wall. hmmm... which makes me wonder: if Vader can use the Force to deflect a shot, how come he didn't use it to guide it back to hit Han Solo? bah... It doesn't matter. And I really don't care if it's the gloves or the Force (reminds me of the old Jordan/Mars Blackman commercials: "Is it the shoes?!"). Vader's a bad SOB either way it goes.
Dec 29th, 2006 07:20 PM
