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Nihilus and the Ravager

is there ANY other possible interpretation of Tobin's line "he pulled it from the mass shadows of Malachor...that is a measure of his power" other than Nihilus simply Force TK'ed the ship out of the gravity well ?



it seems even the simples tof feats now are beign denied by some users here

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He did also say that Nihilus holds the ship together, I think Nihius used his command of the force to pull the ship from the shadows of Malachor and uses it also to hold it together. That, the fact that he hasn't fed on force sensatives, and the Exile's unique connection to the force, could explain in-universe why he was so easily killed in Kotor 2.

But we all know it was just rushed programming that Killed Nihilus in reality. smile


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Ha Ha suck it Ivalice, Nihilius did pull the ravager from the wreakage of Malachor along with his fleet. HA!


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Originally posted by Darth Exodus
Ha Ha suck it Ivalice, Nihilius did pull the ravager from the wreakage of Malachor along with his fleet. HA!
As stated by whom ******? All i recall was that the loading screen stated he got his ship from the gravity well, it did not state he pulled it out with the force.

And tobin IS fallible considering the fact he never actually saw the ravager being pulled out of the gravity well and could be under the assumption that nihilus did it.

Oh right and where is his "fleet" exactly?

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tell me Ivalice what other things in SW at this time besides Force powers hcould pull a spaceship from a gravity well ?

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tell me Ivalice what other things in SW at this time besides Force powers hcould pull a spaceship from a gravity well ?


A death star star size tow truck wink

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tell me Ivalice what other things in SW at this time besides Force powers hcould pull a spaceship from a gravity well ?
And just to let you know, the MSG was not active for years and there could be any way that nihilus lifted the ship.

Hell and in various cutscenes the ravagers engines seem to be in perfect condition, so its plausible that he could have just flown the ship out of there.

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If Tobin's words are to be taken as fact, then Nihilus DID pull the fleet from Malachor. One by one, or all at once--who knows.

However, there were plenty of Sith Interdictors left following the war's end, the rest of his fleet may have been accumulated since then. I've not a found a clear source on the origins of his fleet.

But it would be safe to assume that since the Mass Shadow Generator annihilated or severely damaged everything in its path, and since every other ship visible in Nihilus' force seems rather spick and span, then Nihilus' Interdictors came from elsewhere.


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Hell and in various cutscenes the ravagers engines seem to be in perfect condition, so its plausible that he could have just flown the ship out of there.


well Tobin tells us he pulled it up with his power
might i add something i discovered: Traya tells us about Nihilus' crew of the ship and how he drains them slowly...obviously she's never been onboard the Ravager...just like Tobin wasn't at Malachor
fact is writers use characters to say things the characters shouldn't know all the time it's just how it is

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also consider the Mandalore said the structural damage should have destroyed the ship + the fact we see huge holes in the hull as well as electricity/lightning shooting off it it's pretty obvious Nihilus just couldn't have "flown" it off a planet



also upon setting the last charge on the Ravager

Zuka: That's the last of them, Mandalore. We can destroy the ship on your command.
Exile: We still have to kill the Master on this ship, or Telos is finished anyway.

so apparently blowing up the Ravager wouldn't keep Nihilus from killing the planet

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Oh right and where is his "fleet" exactly?


' He tore it from the mass shadows of malachor, along with his fleet...'

So suck it.

And how the hell else could he have done this except by Force power, gentle persuasion?
And Tobin is NOT fallible. He's the only source on the subject.


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If Tobin's words are to be taken as fact, then Nihilus DID pull the fleet from Malachor. One by one, or all at once--who knows.


Nihilus was described to have "torn" the fleet from the Mass Shadows of Malachor, implying that it was all at once.

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' He tore it from the mass shadows of malachor, along with his fleet...'

So suck it.

And how the hell else could he have done this except by Force power, gentle persuasion?
And Tobin is NOT fallible. He's the only source on the subject.
And did tobin saw nihilus doing it mr smarty pants? So of course he is fallible, quote me with a more reliable source prehaps kreia or come up with something from your "intellect". THEN ill back down.

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He may be fallible but it's all we've got to go on, so wouldn't his word count until proven faulty?


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Not until something backs him up considering he was not there at malachor V.

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and Traya wasn't on the Ravager but tells us all about its crew
characters telling us stuff like what Tobin did is just the makers of the game informing us the player

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and Traya wasn't on the Ravager but tells us all about its crew
characters telling us stuff like what Tobin did is just the makers of the game informing us the player
Quote traya please.

And characters telling us stuff can be fallible, such as the rodian in kotor whom stated exar kun is the most powerful sith lord to have ever exist is fallible.

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such as the rodian in kotor whom stated exar kun is the most powerful sith lord to have ever exist is fallible.


i'd say he was right
he was obviously only talking about Sith up until that point in time and at that time Kun was probably the strongest Sith ever

let me find the Traya quote
i'll post it once i got it

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Exile: But all life is touched by the Force.
Kreia: Then you understand how terrible such a power is. And why it must be ended. It is an empty road to the dark side, and by travelling it, the price is death before one's time. He is a breach in the Force, capable of consuming the lives of those around him. Sometimes the touch is slow, as it is with his crew.

and indeed she's right as we saw on the ship

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Exile: But all life is touched by the Force.
Kreia: Then you understand how terrible such a power is. And why it must be ended. It is an empty road to the dark side, and by travelling it, the price is death before one's time. He is a breach in the Force, capable of consuming the lives of those around him. Sometimes the touch is slow, as it is with his crew.

and indeed she's right as we saw on the ship
Shes right because she trained him and knew his capabilities...

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