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Question: Mace Windu's Power

Lucas stated that by ROTJ, Darth Vader is 80% of Emperor Palpatine.

How much do you think Mace Windu is % wise of Yoda?


This has nothing to do with swordsmanship. I'm talking about Force power.

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Probably...70%? Somewhere around there.

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Really thought it would be higher. Anyone else?

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99%


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1175.78896%

Obviously. Yoda's lightsaber was the same color as his skin, but Mace was strong enough to make a different colored lightsaber.


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.04 * Yoda = Mace.

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To give you a straight answer, nobody knows. George Lucas never made that comparison.


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i couldve swore i read lucas say when he was replying to ppls email that mace was equal to yoda hmmm i wish i could find that sight if i do ill post it


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and that was vader=80% of palpatine at the time of the pt. this equasion might not have been true at the time of rots.


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i dont know why people keep talking of force power and sabre skills as separate things...Windu essentially invented modern vaapad and was the only one to master it without falling to the dark side...this would take a massive mastery of the force to achieve...he lost his sabre and took on hundreds of droids using only his bare hands and his force powers...he is one of the few jedi who can use aspects of the force that flirt dangerously close to the dark side without even wavering...such as shatterpoint and force crush

all this and he lived 800 years less than yoda did...so while at the time of his death he may not have been yoda's equal in terms of overall force power...i'd say he mastered things other jedi didn't or couldn't...and if he had 800 more years to achieve greater power than i'd say he'd have far excelled beyond yoda's ability


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when does lucas reply to people's email? the only sight i know about that supposedly happening is supershadow.....

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obviously i know that nemesis... that was my point.... if boog got his idea that lucas said that from that site, then.... you follow?

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question...do posts in here get actively deleted


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Originally posted by truejedi
obviously i know that nemesis... that was my point.... if boog got his idea that lucas said that from that site, then.... you follow?


I wasn't responding to you.

The only place he would've found 'GL responding to EMAIL' would be SS.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by jaden101
i dont know why people keep talking of force power and sabre skills as separate things...Windu essentially invented modern vaapad and was the only one to master it without falling to the dark side...this would take a massive mastery of the force to achieve...he lost his sabre and took on hundreds of droids using only his bare hands and his force powers...he is one of the few jedi who can use aspects of the force that flirt dangerously close to the dark side without even wavering...such as shatterpoint and force crush

all this and he lived 800 years less than yoda did...so while at the time of his death he may not have been yoda's equal in terms of overall force power...i'd say he mastered things other jedi didn't or couldn't...and if he had 800 more years to achieve greater power than i'd say he'd have far excelled beyond yoda's ability


the shatterpoint ability doesn't even come close to "flirting with the darkside"

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Originally posted by xxxpoppunker182
the shatterpoint ability doesn't even come close to "flirting with the darkside"


Vapaad does. That's obviously what he meant. Vapaad + Force Crush = Scary Jedi.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by xxxpoppunker182
the shatterpoint ability doesn't even come close to "flirting with the darkside"


depends on how it's used...not to mention that most force users capable of using shatterpoint have been aligned to the darkside...Kreia, Darth Caedus, Visas Marr

Mace Windu only really used his ability to see shatterpoints...i dont think he ever acted on the ability...must've been a reason for not doing so...


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depends on how it's used...not to mention that most force users capable of using shatterpoint have been aligned to the darkside...Kreia, Darth Caedus, Visas Marr

Fallacy of Composition
The individual alignments of users has little to do with the technique itself. Many of the users of TK have been dark side- Vader, Marek, Dooku, Sidious- but that doesn't mean that it is a DS power.
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Mace Windu only really used his ability to see shatterpoints...i dont think he ever acted on the ability...must've been a reason for not doing so...


In fights he definitely uses that ability. He could see exactly where to attack giant tanks on Harrun Kal. He acts on it when it is his own best interests, or those of the Republic. There is nothing to suggest that he actively avoided using the technique.


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