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Star Wars vs Star Trek

Ok, so i was wondering, who wins. There is a space and a land battle. No Vader, no Kirk or Spock. Vehicles can be used, but no AT-ATs. In the space battle there are 500 ships of every type, and each ship holds 500 fighters and bombers of the most advanced type. On land, there are 500,000 regular troops, and an equal number of each type of specialist ?(anti-vehicle, snipers, etc.) who wins? it is a hilly plain with no high ground, and a forest is close by on the field. The hills are not that high, and are scattered. This is from a technological view point.


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Its against the rules to create threads like this, plz read the rules or you will get banned.

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But before this is closed the Wars so win.

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It's kind of accepted by everyone who doesn't let bias get in the way that Star Wars beats Star Trek in every department except for one: Q. Q obliterates anything Star Wars has.


And there's already a thread like this.


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O.0 rules never say anything about crossing these 2 things, and vs has to be only star wars.........


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"O.0 rules never say anything about crossing these 2 things, and vs has to be only star wars.........".


Excuse me? Why contradict yourself in the same sentence, the rules dai SW ONLY so that means you CANNOT use anything else from another media.

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[QUOTE=12084107]Originally posted by Wolverine2179
"O.0 rules never say anything about crossing these 2 things, and vs has to be only star wars.........".


Excuse me? Why contradict yourself in the same sentence, the rules dai SW ONLY so that means you CANNOT use anything else from another media.
[/QUOTEThat is the vs forum, this isnt. This forums rules do NOT say you cant cross these 2. The VS forum does. Get your facts straight for this forums rules before you say that crap.


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Taken from the rules section of this forum.

All 'Versus' fights of any descriptions go in the Versus area... which then has its own rules..

Sorry, your wrong.

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So you opened a duplicate versus thread in the wrong forum, and had it involve a media which was against the rules?


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this has been done, in this forum.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f6/t335025.html

I've done all the hard work. Rex, be a darling and push the close button on this thread. smile


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Taken from the rules section of this forum.

All 'Versus' fights of any descriptions go in the Versus area... which then has its own rules..

Sorry, your wrong.
This was... disturbingly polite.

WTF man. We need the rage.

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I got to watch what i say incase rex is around. I don't want to get a perma ban this time.

Besides i'll just "act polite" to him here, this guy tried to personally attack me via PM's and failed miserably.

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Originally posted by Lord Lucien
It's kind of accepted by everyone who doesn't let bias get in the way that Star Wars beats Star Trek in every department except for one: Q. Q obliterates anything Star Wars has.


And there's already a thread like this.


Hahaha...nah...


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Originally posted by jaden101
Hahaha...nah...
Teehee...yah...


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What about manoeuvrability and range? Those are some major factors Trek has I believe.


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Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Teehee...yah...


Haha...nah....Seriously...Nah.


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What about manoeuvrability and range? Those are some major factors Trek has I believe.
I'll admit, I'm no Trekkie. But from what I do know and have read, Star Wars weapons have greater range and their fighters have greater sublight speed. The only problem I could see would be the Borg, their numbers may count for something depending on the situation. But as the limits of their energy assimilation, I couldn't say. Phasers and blasters are two different things. Then there's lightsabers, ion, turbolasers, superlasers... Iunno.


But Q>Star Wars. All of Star Trek vs. All of Star Wars=Trek victory.


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Q is sexier than all of star wars as well.


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Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I'll admit, I'm no Trekkie. But from what I do know and have read, Star Wars weapons have greater range and their fighters have greater sublight speed. The only problem I could see would be the Borg, their numbers may count for something depending on the situation. But as the limits of their energy assimilation, I couldn't say. Phasers and blasters are two different things. Then there's lightsabers, ion, turbolasers, superlasers... Iunno.


But Q>Star Wars. All of Star Trek vs. All of Star Wars=Trek victory.


http://www.st-v-sw.net/STSW-WeaponRange.html

A little something I brought up in the ST v SW thread in the ST forum.

In the Thrawn trilogy it was said that whoever recovered the Katana fleet could tip the balance of power in their favour in the whole of the Galaxy...The Katana fleet consisted of some 500+ old republic dreadnoughts.

The Borg central nexus was said to contain trillions of drones onboard billions of vessels.

Then there's Species 8472...Which have an entire alternate universe to draw upon numbers from as well as the ability to combine 8 or 9 single pilot, small bioships and destroy and entire planet within seconds.

Even without Q the ST galaxy has many other omnipotent and immortal beings to choose from. The Douwd, The being who tested different ways of dying on the Enterprise crew because it had no concept of mortality.

Then there's the Dominion...Potentially equal in strength and numbers to the Borg.

If we were to include Q then you'd have to include the weapons from the episode "the Q and the grey" whereby they were shooting each other with what, to humans, appeared to be American civil war muskets but were actually causing massive supernova.

Even in terms of normal technology ST has weapons that phase out of time and space and so can't be hampered by energy shielding. They have torpedos that generate over 20 times the energy that the most powerful nuclear weapon ever detonated on our planet gave out.

Then there's the fact that SW relies solely on direct energy weapons...ST has ablative armour which renders direct weapons almost useless.

About the only thing SW has going for it is speed of vessels...Depends on the power of a vessel it can traverse the galaxy between 2 weeks and a month (according to an official SW galaxy map taken from one of the SW "fact" books) Where it would take a warp ship years unless it can get higher up the warp scale as warp 10 is infinite speed so warp 9.999999 means a ship could get across the galaxy in seconds (something similar was done in voyager and in the next generation)

Of course, ST also has transwarp which can deploy ships across the galaxy in minutes.

This is usually the point where SW fans say "It shouldn't be SW v ST...It should be SW v the Federation"...Nice gimping tactic given that the SW galaxy is of comparable size to the ST galaxy and the federation only control a tiny fraction of the ST galaxy.

Then the SW fans will usually say "Well then ST can have the Klingons, Romulans, Cardassians, Ferengi and all the other equally strong species"...Which is still gimping but not quite as bad....Ironically that group would most likely still kick SW ass given that it has ships such as the Reman Scimitar.


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Indeed, duplicate thread, but aside from Trek vs. Wars, it is appreciated if you don't open threads in a STAR WARS section that do not involve ONLY Star Wars as a topic.


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