At first I thought Vader was really weak, in both lightsaber dueling and the Force. That was until I understood how powerful he was in the Force, and that he bested many Jedi in lightsaber combat. But I still can't get a good read on how powerful he is. I mean, Luke Skywalker, who only had 4 years of training, kicked his butt! What is the deal?
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Re: How Powerful is Vader?
Because vader held back against his son? Luke admits it in a later book.
Seriously start reading more EU books and comics, play TFU and you will see just how powerful he is in the force and i'll tell you that he is way more powerful than alot of jedi and sith.
And the "oh me gosh he is sooooooo sl0w in the movies and weak" argument died years ago and is pathetic, first off who the hell in the movies was a big enough threat for him to go all out on?
You may say that in ROTJ but then again he wasn't going all out, he didn't even use any force powers at all.
Apart from the saber throw which required the Force.
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Vader is pretty freakin powerful. He's got a lot of crappy weaknesses, but he's like a bull that can just crush people. Effectively unlimited physical stamina (mech limbs). He still have a butt load of raw Force potential. And he's got a big enough skill set to really cause some damage. I think he probably surpassed his ROTS self, but I don't think by enough to every be much of a threat to like Sidious.
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Glentract you say he has unlimited physical stamina, he was being worn out by Luke in ROTJ when he gave into his anger. He[Luke] rushed to his father with a frenzy he'd never known. Nor had Vader.
Blow upon blow, Luke forced Vader to retreat.
Each stroke of Luke's saber pummeled Vader, like accusations, like screams, like shards of hate. -Novellisation-Just saying.
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The fact he didn't have the strength to standup to Luke's blows anymore?
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UNLIMITED physical stamina? That's an exaggeration, right? No one has "unlimited" stamina.
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Well I don't think it says that. I think it's implied , afterall, if two forces meet and A is stronger than B, B is pushed back. Vader is B. In this situation.
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it seemed to me that avder just couldnt keep up with him. Luke was getting more ferocious and unpredictable. i dont think its implying that he was getting weaker.
but then again. the movie clearly shows him getting worn out so i guess it doesnt really matter.
He became more powerful than you can possibly imagine. That's what he did.
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