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Do the Tribe outnumber the Jedi?
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Do the Tribe outnumber the Jedi?

I mean, they've been around unabated for 5000 years, whereas the Jedi had a purge just 60 or so years ago. Do the Sith actually outnumber the Jedi?


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I don't think it says. Wookiee only lists a handful. The NJO so far have more named members. But consider that their number of 100 was slashed in half by the Yuuzhan Vong War, it's just weird that they would have more.


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wait. 50 Jedi? No, its more than that. In Invincible, 12 jedi masters and 50 Jedi Knights stormed the Anakin Solo. plus Jaina, and Zekk. Plus the Hapan Queen. Plus any padawans or younglings. So definitly more than 50. Seems like some numbers are given in Backslash as well, right? I'm guesssing it wasn't even close to the entire number of jedi that hit the ship, either, plus the other academies.

That was disjointed, but it makes my point.

However, the One Tribe, are an entire planet of force sensitives. I think they do outnumber the Jedi. They have already lost 19 members, and HOW MANY shuttles were present at the end of BackSlash? A lot.

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Around 50 as of the end of the Yuuzhan Vong War. LotF begins a decade after that.


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ohkay. Well, do you think then, that the Jedi are outnumbered?

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By the start of the Legacy comic (pre-Purge/destruction of Ossus at least), the Jedi numbers had risen into the thousands.

Recruiting from a galaxy means Jedi numbers are limited mostly by how fast they can be found and trained.


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By the start of the Legacy comic (pre-Purge/destruction of Ossus at least), the Jedi numbers had risen into the thousands.
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The writer John Ostrander talked about Sith numbers in comparison to the Jedi numbers of the time: ""We haven't come up with a definite number for the Sith but it's certainly over 1,000, probably over 10,000…It's not that they outnumber the Jedi."

So the Sith have certainly over a thousand, and they don't necessarily outnumber the Jedi.

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But that is by Legacy. We are talking about the Legacy of the Force Book series. The Jedi barely have a few hundred.

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But that is by Legacy. We are talking about the Legacy of the Force Book series. The Jedi barely have a few hundred.


Yea, I'm saying "by that point they'll have that much," knowing the end point is useful data. They need to have enough to reach that point.

A few hundred makes sense to me for the current book timeline.

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It took them like 20 years just to get to 100; subtract half and in ten years I doubt they've multiplied several hundred percent.


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It took them like 20 years just to get to 100; subtract half and in ten years I doubt they've multiplied several hundred percent.


On the other hand, the One Sith numbered 20-30 by 40 A.B.Y. 90 years later, they numbered in the thousands. Just saying.


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It took them like 20 years just to get to 100; subtract half and in ten years I doubt they've multiplied several hundred percent.


Ten years, not a lot of action, more of the original recruits are now experienced knights at the least and quite a few of them are masters? I can see them doubling or more their number.


The more Jedi you have, the more teachers there are. In the past there was only one, or eventually a few, Masters and thus recruiting had to go through a slim bottleneck. The bottleneck has widened a fair amount so the recruit-to-knight flow increases.

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On the other hand, the One Sith numbered 20-30 by 40 A.B.Y. 90 years later, they numbered in the thousands. Just saying.


Where does it say what the One Sith numbered in 40 Aby?


I thought there was a planet full?


Wait... Tribe? is the one sith the one's on korriban? (and I would imagine that was in LOTF?)

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Where does it say what the One Sith numbered in 40 Aby?


I thought there was a planet full?


Wait... Tribe? is the one sith the one's on korriban? (and I would imagine that was in LOTF?)


The One Sith is the one on Korriban, the Tribe's on Kesh.

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yeppers. Are the Tribe featured in the Legacy comics at all?

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yeppers. Are the Tribe featured in the Legacy comics at all?
I've read them all and unless my memory fails me...No.


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They weren't invented until well into the run, so no, they haven't played a role.


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Probably they do outnumber the Jedi (in FoTJ). Yet, they have not had to face an enemy like the YV. The Tribe would have suffered tremendous casualties as did the Jedi. Many of the core and experienced knights were KIA like Anakin Solo.

But the Jedi that the Tribe has faced in combat (Luke & Ben), the Tribe lost the engagements suffering irreplaceable losses. Only Gaalan and Vestara have survived. Now if or when they face Jaina, Kyp or Kyle, it's gonna be bad news for the Tribe.


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It sounds like they don't have as much power as they normally would.


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