Drath Sid. has broken the rule of two so many times in so many ways!Firt he allows Dooku recruite skorr,sora,ventress,vos,and mauls brother!Then he trys to develope an army of siths!WHY!?
Because once his rule was solidified he likely didn't care about maintaining tradition anymore.
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Can you really call them apprentices in the literal sense? I always viewed them as would-be apprentices - ie. beings who desperately wanted to be accepted as formal Sith apprentices, so they followed Dooku's every order in hopes of attaining that position.
Personally, I'd just call them force adept assassins employed by the Sith. Nothing more. /shrug
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Last edited by Galan007 on May 30th, 2011 at 02:13 AM
Really it just comes down to semantics. Ventress is as capable as any Sith, but she's not, because Palpatine said so and Dooku is disinclined to disagree.
Unless you're referring to Dark Empire or similar material, Palpatine never actually intended to form an army of Sith. That idea was simply another lie he led Count Dooku to believe was part of his grand design.
Dooku's many recruits are just what he calls them: acolytes. They are renegade Force-users whose talents he can make use of; he never imparts to them the secrets of the Sith, and with the exception of Opress I don't believe he ever even spent much time instructing them personally, relying on the competency and aggression that led them into his service to begin with.
I'd wager that he spent a fair amount of time instructing Ventress as well, considering the fact that she utilizes Makashi (albeit in an unrefined manner) as noted by Luminara Unduli.
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Ventress was teased with some training, but would never get the good stuff that'd really increase her power unless one of the top two died and she got to take her place.
It's too bad she wasn't born in the Legacy era, she'd have actually gotten more of what she wanted from the One Sith.
I know. I was just responding to E's comment that Dooku spent significant time training Oppress, but not Ventress. My point is that he likely spent a good amount of time training her as well. It's all rather academic. However I was bored and figured I'd comment.
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The other 'Sith' were little more than weapons and agents. Ventress was never meant to replace Dooku or Palpatine. In TPM, Palpatine's objective was to eventually turn Anakin because he recognized his potential. After all he stated "we'll be watching your career closely."
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Well Sidious didn't mind Dooku having assassins/soldiers. Like Greivous, Durge. I guess from Sidious's point of view Ventress was just another one.
But the second he sensed her force powers getting beyond a certain level, he ordered Dooku to kill her. Whilst Dooku of course was training her as a Sith apprentice to overthrow Sidious.
I don't believe he did. And even if he did since when does sidious give a shit about sith tradition? He killed his master in his sleep for cripes sake. Your supposed to fight them face to face.
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Yea. When telling Holocrons about the One Sith, Krayt had bad luck with the ones he grabbed. Get Sidious's and it would've been, "Sure, dude, whatever, as long as you mess Jedi up!"
Which is why I agree with Sids. As long as it works its all good. Admittedly, Bane's Rule of Two worked better than any other Sith Order, but I think the current DLotS can do whatever he wants with the current Order.
Another thing I want to point out was I loved Kaan's system. Yes, Bane hated it and claimed it was "un-sithly" but I thought it was the exact opposite. Kaan created the perfect system for him! Which quite frankly seems very sithly to me.
I think Kaan's Sith were pretty much doomed to lose whatever happened, whether to force of arms or Bane's thought bomb, but the Sith would've gone down a lot sooner without him united them in the first place.
Hm, I wonder what an alt-timeline with no Kaan would've been. Sith don't get unified, or at least quite as soon, and go down. Bane never gets trained by them to get his start. No Rule of Two Sith. Galactic peace?
May 30th, 2011 01:10 AM
