I’ve been reading about the SW universe and how the galaxy is just a small part of it. I’ve searched the internet and wookiepedia but I couldn’t get the exact answers I want. I know there is no certain information about this but still I would love to hear other people’s theories about this.
The force seems to exist only in the galaxy since Yuuzhan Vong are not made out of the force but does that mean the other galaxies have another type of force or are just material beings? If so doesn’t that go against the idea of there could be no life without the force?
Also when Anakin goes to the Mortis does he get out of the galaxy or is that planet a part of their galaxy?
Qui-Gon says “Unlike any other. A conduit through which the entire Force of the universe flows” about Mortis so if it is not part of the main galaxy it means the force exists in other galaxies as well. Also Qui-Gon says force of the UNIVERSE which can mean that the entire universe exists through the force but than how did Yuuzhan Vong come to life?
Are there answers to these questions? If so, please share and if not what theories do you have?
The Force exists throughout the entire universe. In the case of the Yuuzhan Vong, when they first appeared it was believed that their extra-galactic origins was the reason they could not be felt through the Force.
It was later revealed that that was not the case. In fact the Yuuzhan Vong had originally been connected to the Force same as all other life forms. Their planet, Zonama Sekot (a sapient being), severed their connection to the Force as punishment for their warmongering, genocidal actions.
So yes, the Force exists in the whole universe, not just one galaxy.
Last edited by chilled monkey on Dec 8th, 2013 at 11:02 PM
Yes. Mortis I believe exists in a higher dimensional plane or its own pocket dimension.
__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
Re: Re: Does the force exist in the entire Universe?
Oh that explains a lot.
What Darth Kreia thinks about the force is also very interesting. She hates it and thinks that the force itself is also manipulating every being for its own required balance to exist. She claims that even though the force seems to be above material concerns and individualistic feelings it also has the instinct to survive which makes it selfish and evil.
She wanted the exile to kill the force. I wonder if the exile had the possibility to do that and if Kreia would be happy to see Vitiate consume the entire galaxy?
That leads to another question as well. If Vitiate succeeded with his ritual and even continue expanding it in the entire universe would he be able to kill the force by killing himself? I mean the force itself not the material existence provided by the force.
I don't think you can actually kill the Force, I interpreted it as Traya making an echo that kills all force sensitives in the galaxy, therefore no longer would any Jedi/Sith or any other organization ever exist because no one can use the Force, thereby in her opinion saving the galaxy from the Force.
__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
That sounds more like saving the force from the galaxy. Kreia would seek that if she loved the force so much and try to purify it from its users. She says she actually hates the force and thinks that it is the greatest manipulator. She says it doesn't care how much the living things suffer because of the balance it tries to keep.
Really? It sounds like she loves it? Not really, the Force is supposed to be all living things connected to each other, killing a majority of the users isn't necessarily purifying it.
__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
Im not saying what she says sounds like it. I'm saying what you said makes it sound like she loves the force. "therefore no longer would any Jedi/Sith or any other organization ever exist because no one can use the Force"
That sounds like she hates the force users not the force itself but thats not the case.
Also the Exile exists after she reduces herself from the force so maybe it is possible to exist without the force. I'm not sure if Kreia wants to destroy everything that exists or is she trying to keep things alive without the force. Why do you think you cannot kill the force?
I don't agree. Force exists in both dimensions I think. It can still exist in nothingness. I think if you want to kill it you would have strip the force from every thing that exists. However I began to think that is impossible because since everything is created by the force and force has a will and keeps the balance in the universe, it programs every character's deeds. The exile didn't do what Kreia wanted her to do because she wasn't spawned from the force that way. Another example is Anakin. He was created as a response from the force with the purpose of killing Sidious because he did very arrogant sorcery with the force with Plagueis. Even though Sidious bended his destiny and made him his apprentice he ended up killing Sidious. I think there can be no existence without the force and the force would not create something that would destroy it. Exile was a hole in the force and Nihilus was a wound so she existed to keep the balance in the force as an opposition to Nihilus and eventually ended up killing Nihilus. Even Kreia's hatred of the force served to keep the balance of the force as she guided the exile to face Nihilus with that motivation.
The thought of the full control the force has over everything makes me feel so unimportant but I think that's how things work in the universe.
Dec 8th, 2013 09:47 PM
