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KotOR is NOT a weak era
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Jaggarath
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KotOR is NOT a weak era

Many people have the belief the KotOR era is weak (mainly due to how easily Meetra got beat by a TOR Sith), however this is not the case. All pics taken from Knights of the Old Republic campaign guide.

The Jedi Order of Knights of the Old Republic had large numbers of expert swordsman and force-related powers. More members are also more active and in the battlefield then the likes of the Prequel Trilogy and other eras.
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Lightsaber and melee dueling is a frequent practice throughout the galaxy.
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Darth Revan's Sith Empire is stated to be an equal to the size and power of Palpatine's own Sith Empire.
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In a short amount of time, Darth Revan's Sith Empire was able to control 1/3 of the known galaxy, a very impressive feat. Alongside him were thousands of Dark Jedi.
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All factions of the galaxy have been in constant warfare, making many very experienced fighters.
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Who says it's weak?

BTW, the campaign guide also says that during this time "these are the days of the Jedi in their prime" and "the Jedi Order is at the summit of its power and self-confidence."

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Retconned. TOR is the best era. Suck it PT.


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So, TOR>KotOR>PT?


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Retconned. TOR is the best era. Suck it PT.


Got a source officially retconning it? Because I've seen nothing saying the TOR Order is the best.

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Also, what section of the book says those quotes? They can be very helpful for me in future debates. Thanks for telling me though. smile


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Who says it's weak?

BTW, the campaign guide also says that during this time "these are the days of the Jedi in their prime" and "the Jedi Order is at the summit of its power and self-confidence."


It is hard to be self-confident when half the galaxy is owned by Sith!


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Also, what section of the book says those quotes? They can be very helpful for me in future debates. Thanks for telling me though. smile


They are on the black pages. Pages 103 and 129.

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It just says that its the time of the Jedi in their prime moreso than the Clone Wars. Which, hah! Suck it PT!

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Thats actually referring to the Jedi as of Exar Kun. wink

Plus as eyerolling as it may seem, I think that may refer to their political power. The rest of the paragraph is solely focused on the organisation and function of the Order, not their martial power. The Kotor period was the time when the Jedi were the de facto Republic military and the Republic was heavily reliant on them to the point of degradation in the martial power of the actual army (SWTORE).


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The first one is referring to the Jedi as of Revan, the second is referring to the Jedi as of Exar Kun. However, I don't see much of a difference however. Also, PT>TOR. Suck it TOR.


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There's another Legend out there.

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What? Are you referring to S_W_LeGenD?


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I'd say they simply had multiple primes.

The schism with Revan's forces causing so many Jedi to defect really did a number on them.


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Theres no way the Kotor era is the best after that imo.

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The first one is referring to the Jedi as of Revan, the second is referring to the Jedi as of Exar Kun. However, I don't see much of a difference however. Also, PT>TOR. Suck it TOR.


I edited my post to be more in depth.


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I think that may refer to their political power.

Yet the sentence that follows is solely about the Jedi in battle with mandos and Sith.


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No it isn't. Thats the first quote, which is merely a comparison to the PT era.


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Which is what I was referring to.
Also, PT been stated to be the prime of the Jedi, so don't say "merely."


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Well I was referring to the second quote when I suggested it was talking about political authority. So your point doesn't affect mine.

Meh.


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It just says that its the time of the Jedi in their prime moreso than the Clone Wars. Which, hah! Suck it PT!


Sure. KotOR>PT>Everything else.

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Plus as eyerolling as it may seem, I think that may refer to their political power. The rest of the paragraph is solely focused on the organisation and function of the Order, not their martial power. The Kotor period was the time when the Jedi were the de facto Republic military and the Republic was heavily reliant on them to the point of degradation in the martial power of the actual army (SWTORE).


It is eye rolling because the the guide mentions several times how during this era the Jedi aren't diplomats and that the Order is decentralized. Heck, the main Jedi Temple isn't even on Coruscant at this time. Beyond that the obvious time the Jedi were at the height of their political power would be during the New Sith Wars when there were Jedi Supreme Chancellors and they were pretty much running the whole show.

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