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Vitiate: Overrated or Underrated?
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The_Tempest
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Vitiate: Overrated or Underrated?

Make your cases.

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Vitiate sucks ass


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The_Tempest
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Vitiate sucks ass


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Over, Vitiate is fine and powerful. But some just put him on a place that he doesn't belong.

More to that, why is it such a big deal anyway? He's powerful, so there's no need to try and make him something that he isn't.


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Originally posted by Zenwolf
Over, Vitiate is fine and powerful. But some just put him on a place that he doesn't belong.

More to that, why is it such a big deal anyway? He's powerful, so there's no need to try and make him something that he isn't.

Same can be said for Luke.

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Same can be said for Luke.


You've already made a thread addressing that subject. What about Vitiate?

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Originally posted by The_Tempest
You've already made a thread addressing that subject. What about Vitiate?

I am slowly but surely trying to make a realistic assessment of all well-known powerful Star Wars characters, avoiding all FANON hype in the process. This will take some time, but I hope that fans will find such assessment useful in the long-run and rationality will replace FANON hype in debates.

However, their will be those who would still roll their eyes. And nothing can be done about them.

As for the topic, Vitiate is underrated.

An interesting revelation though: [SPOILER - highlight to read]: nothing matches Bedlam spirits.

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Originally posted by ILS
Vitiate sucks ass

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Same can be said for Luke.


Not sure where you're going with this. Luke is fine where he's at.

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Originally posted by ILS
Vitiate sucks ass

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Not sure where you're going with this. Luke is fine where he's at.

The (realistic) Luke is fallible and may loose in fights against other immensely powerful opponents. However, (Fanon) Luke just solos virtually every opponent and manipulates real black holes in debates. This is the difference.

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The (realistic) Luke is fallible and may loose in fights against other immensely powerful opponents. However, (Fanon) Luke just solos virtually every opponent and manipulates real black holes in debates. This is the difference.


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Originally posted by Zenwolf
Over, Vitiate is fine and powerful. But some just put him on a place that he doesn't belong.

More to that, why is it such a big deal anyway? He's powerful, so there's no need to try and make him something that he isn't.




Exactly.

He's easily one of the most powerful sith in the mythos. After Sidious, he holds the best hype and accolades, and he has a very impressive combat feat: taking out a groups of powerful jedi with a powerful storm of lightning, which is his best feat on record as far as I know. However, placing him on par with Sidious, is vastly overrating him. Sidious has far more impressive and consistent combat feats against more powerful force users that were done with far greater ease than Vitiate's best combat showing. Even as of ROTS, Sidious is noticeably more powerful than Vitiate. As of DE, Sidious is far more powerful.

There's no reason to assume Vitiate is on par with Sidious. No, Sidious can't ragdoll Vitiate, and Vitiate would put up quite a challenge in a force contest, IMO, but there is a gap between them. And if Sidious were to close in on him, he'd annihilate Vitiate with ease.

My answer to this thread is Obvious. I believe that just by placing him on par with Sidious is overrating him. A feat to feat comparison, Sidious has him beat solidly. DE Sidious makes Vitiate look like a mere child playing around with rituals to pull off feats that are less potent than feats Sidious can pull off with mere thoughts which come from Sidious's own natural power, without aid. In terms of accolades and hype, Sidious has him beat there pretty solidly as well.

Someone please make a case for Vitiate, because I'm not seeing why people place him higher than he is.


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You've made your case, my son. Well done.

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Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Exactly.

He's easily one of the most powerful sith in the mythos. After Sidious, he holds the best hype and accolades, and he has a very impressive combat feat: taking out a groups of powerful jedi with a powerful storm of lightning, which is his best feat on record as far as I know. However, placing him on par with Sidious, is vastly overrating him. Sidious has far more impressive and consistent combat feats against more powerful force users that were done with far greater ease than Vitiate's best combat showing. Even as of ROTS, Sidious is noticeably more powerful than Vitiate. As of DE, Sidious is far more powerful.

There's no reason to assume Vitiate is on par with Sidious. No, Sidious can't ragdoll Vitiate, and Vitiate would put up quite a challenge in a force contest, IMO, but there is a gap between them. And if Sidious were to close in on him, he'd annihilate Vitiate with ease.

My answer to this thread is Obvious. I believe that just by placing him on par with Sidious is overrating him. A feat to feat comparison, Sidious has him beat solidly. DE Sidious makes Vitiate look like a mere child playing around with rituals to pull off feats that are less potent than feats Sidious can pull off with mere thoughts which come from Sidious's own natural power, without aid. In terms of accolades and hype, Sidious has him beat there pretty solidly as well.

Someone please make a case for Vitiate, because I'm not seeing why people place him higher than he is.

Very nice, S66. thumb up Reading your posts is always a pleasure.

I am of opinion that also Plagueis and Caedus should be placed above Vitiate, especially concerning combat.

Other potential candidates are Nihilus (for N.'s fanbois) or Kun (for Kun's fanbois) or perhaps Krayt etc.

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Sheer feats wise, Palpatine (DE) have most impressive showings in the entire mythos. I don't see why only known feats are being considered for evaluation here.

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Underrated.


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Make your case, b1tch. Right now, S66 is mushroom tapping the hell out of you.

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Vitiate sucks ass


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Sheer feats wise, Palpatine (DE) have most impressive showings in the entire mythos. I don't see why only known feats are being considered for evaluation here.

Don't worry. Palpatine has also better hype, and as of RotS. thumb up

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