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S_W_LeGenD
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The super-strong of Star Wars

People have always wondered that what are the most powerful beings of Star Wars?

Answer: Bedlam spirits

Evidence:

These omnipotent, transdimensional beings are said to exist in the stark whiteness that digests the fabric of hyperspace near the Bedlam Pulsar. According to anecdotal accounts, beings known as Splendid Ap, Horliss-Horliss, Tilorny, and Cold Danda Sire have left evidence of impossibly transmitted matter and objects shunted through time.

Taken from Star Wars: The Essential Atlas

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The Ones are canonically superior, but I suspect the Bedlam Spirits are a really close second. thumb up


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S_W_LeGenD
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Bedlam Spirits are part of Legends lore, not Canon lore.

The Ones are Force users, tremendously powerful ones indeed, but they are not omnipotent.

Bedlam Spirits are literally omnipotent beings that transcend time and space and defy logic. Nothing touches them.

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The Ones have an influence over the Force itself though, the Bedlam Spirits merely manipulate the energies around them to degrees never seen before.


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The Ones have an influence over the Force itself though, the Bedlam Spirits merely manipulate the energies around them to degrees never seen before.

Depends upon which continuity you consider; Legends or Canon.

In Legends continuity, Darth Plagueis and Darth Sidious unbalanced the Force after performing a lengthy ritual. As a consequence of this development, Anakin was born but the Jedi foresight weakened and Darth Sidious managed to deceive the Jedi.

Since Bedlam Spirits are part of the Legends continuity, it is logical to consider The Ones in this spectrum for comparison.

In-fact, balance of the Force may have shifted on different occasions due to different factors in history earlier:

The Force was omnipresent. It radiated stronger in certain places and at certain times, and the balance of the dark side and the light constantly shifted. But it was always there in some way, shape, or form.

Taken from Star Wars: The Old Republic: Revan

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They're not Omnipotent. Read the story, they have a hierarchy of strongest to weakest.


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Ones>Bedlams>all


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I'd also like to point out Legends is still bounded by TCW.

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They're not Omnipotent. Read the story, they have a hierarchy of strongest to weakest.

Can you provide details?

Omnipotence means that they cannot be destroyed.

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Ones>Bedlams>all

Not so fast.

Omnipotence coupled with transdimensional capabilities is a spectrum that is difficult to comprehend and virtually impossible to surpass. Common sense.

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In the story, Tilotny is one of the Bedlam Spirits and she's the weakest in the group. An omnipotent can't be weaker than another Omnipotent, nor can there be more than one anyways.


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There is more than 1 definition of Omnipotent. One of which being, just having very great power.


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omnipotent
[om-nip-uh-tuh nt]
Spell Syllables

Synonyms Examples Word Origin

adjective

1.
almighty or infinite in power, as God.

2.
having very great or unlimited authority or power.



Which the spirits do, so they are Omnipotent, but they aren't Omnipotent in the first definition, it's moreso they are the latter one, having great power.


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Ah, I see. That would also be The One's classification, agreed?


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The Ones have an influence over the Force itself though, the Bedlam Spirits merely manipulate the energies around them to degrees never seen before.



When one gets down to it, the Bedlam Spirits have more impressive direct feats. Control over time and matters is more impressive than the force powers the Ones have shown.


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Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Ones>Bedlams>all
Nihilus>Ones>Badlems>all

Fixed


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I there any evidence that suggests the Bedlam spirits can and do use the Force? If they don't we can't really compare them to the Ones.


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