True, some will be the same. Someone like Caedus though, whom I think is a top 2, top 3 sith ever in terms of overall combat ability, didn't accomplish nearly as much or have as big an impact on the galaxy as other Sith who were "inferior" to him.
Guys who left knowledge behind like Nadd, guys who constructed unique artifacts or who impacted sith in the generations to come, like Sadow and Kun, guys like Krayt who actually ruled the galaxy for a time with a Sith Empire unseen since the Old Republic, etc.
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Why is Krayt #2? Why is he above Sidious? Why is Sidious leaps and bounds above anyone #2? These are all important questions that need clarification.
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Pretty straightforward: Sidious accomplished more Sithly goals than anyone and did it in a fraction of the time as someone like Vitiate. Krayt, likewise, just not to the same degree.
The length of Vitiate's rule is impressive but he achieved relatively little with it.
Destroying the republic was never a priority for him though. More importantly, when he started intervening with the sith affairs, the sith were in ruin and with the loss of 8000 sith lords in Natemha, I can imagine what a weak society the sith were when Vitiate took over. And under his rule the sith stopped expending after maybe a few centuries since they didnt want to get exposed to the republic so its not like he achieved all that in 1300 years.
Besides, it was during his rule that Sith became an empire with a sophisticated ruling mechanism. The dark council, his own personal cultish organization, the imperial guard and most importantly an excellent sith intelligence.
Vitiate has also started the Mandalorian War and triggered the events that took place in KOTOR. He also achieved immortality and became such a big threat that the sith and the jedi united to fight against him. Personal achievements wise, I think he is above Krayt.
Bane is #1. He played the biggest part in making the Sith the most powerful they would ever become, according to dark side prophecy and a variety of perspectives.
Vitiate is definitely impressive, which is why I put him in the top 3. But Krayt achieved similar accomplishments in a fraction of the time. Krayt orchestrated another Jedi purge, the conflict between the resurgent Empire and GA, and secured the throne. He also achieved a state of immortality and reshaped Sith society as Vitiate did.
Vitiate's definitely got an impressive cv, just not when compared to Krayt's when you factor time.
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I made a mistake Dark lord of sith in the top 10 only.. Sorry...
There is a lot of bunch of old sith lord that deserve a place in this top 20...
There is this sith lord who destroy the moon over Korriban the other who have creating a ritual to create zombie slaves armies....
There is Naga sadow who almost anihilate the republic.
Bane who is reponsible for Sidious Plagueis event etc...
He almost kill the Jedi order before than Traya can ull a shit out of it....
Traya plan was to wait until Revan had finished.. Revanwant to send her an invitation. But she didn't Join his empire because she get betrayl and Sion Nihilus begin their plan earlier..
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The destruction of the Mandalorians to where they never became a galactic threat again, establishing the basis for the Rule of Two, and being a central figure in five separate galactic wars puts him above Bane and Vitiate.
Bane merely destroyed an already dying Brotherhood of Darkness and created a Rule of Two based on the doctrine of Revan. Nothing Vitiate did actually impacted future eras. It began and ended with the Republic where it was.
Note that Luke Skywalker was the only one of the New Jedi Order who was even aware that Vitate's emprie ever existed besides a few others like probably Mara Jade and Kyle Katarn. He didn't impact the galaxy that much TBH.
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The destruction of the Mando's was done before he was a Sith and is a point in Vitiate's favor moreso because he orchastrated the whole thing and it succeeded in splintering the Jedi, corrupting Revan and wrecking the Republic. His idea's on the RoT don't count because he didn't actually accomplish anything with regards to them. He never integrated those idea's into his empire. And he accomplished nothing noteworthy in those wars except constantly ****ing up, failing, fixing his own mistakes and getting his ass kicked.
And you know that Vitiate isn't widely known solely because he's relatively recent. It's not like people were raving about Revan post movies either.