Your association with Carthage kinda gives out that vibe tbh and not including Bane and Vitiate, the two most hated characters by him made me think that way, no offense.
Well, his space station had no amps but more importantly, you acknowledge accolades don't you? At least the accurate and clear ones?
"In resurrecting the Emperor, Revan believes he will succeed where others have failed. But the Emperor will prove far too powerful for Revan, or anyone else. No one person, not even Revan can truly destroy the Emperor. He will destroy Revan, then move on to the rest of us. In time, he will consume all life in the galaxy. The depths of the Emperor's power are as much a mystery to me as to you. But he is capable of it, I'm certain."
"Oricon was affected by the Dread Masters. Even their combined power was insignificant compared to the Emperor. Have some common sense. The Emperor is the dark side incarnate. You wouldn't stand a chance. You're mad to think you'd even stand a chance against his power. You're nothing to him."
Logically speaking, he should at least be above Revan.
TBH cart makes valid and well-reasoned out arguments. Dismissing him as a troll is rather silly.
And Bane and Vitiate are among most hated for a reason. That reason being that their power is blown out of proportion by many "wankers".
Well, indeed Vitiate is more powerful than Revan.
Again, as I said, if we discard Dromund Kaas amp (Vitiate never leaves the planet that is a nexus. EDIT: excluding the space station, of course. Which I find to be his best feat tbh) then sure, he is somewhere in top 5.
I'm not sure though does these quotes mean Vitiate's power as he is on Dromund Kaas (again, he almost never leaves the planet) or his natural power. (But then again, we virtually never really see his natural power without an amp)
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I'm not denying his knowledge in SWEU. His reasoning lacks logic too much to be considered sincere so people call him a troll for a reason as well.
I'm actually not getting the Bane hatred. I think a few years ago some people considered him above the likes of Sidious but its never been the opinion of the majority and I'm not sure why that wank would cause this much hate.
I used used Revan to calculate Vitiate's power cause you used Revan in your list.
That is good news I guess But if you find that to be his best feat and know that it was accomplished without an amp, why would you not include him in your list because of his lesser feats that was accomplished on a nexus? Even Carthage's nexus arguments are based on whether characters can replicate the feat absent nexus or not and he indeed has replicated it.
Both these quotes are from Shadow of Revan and they're referring to the present and the future where Vitiate isn't in Kaas anymore so yes, these don't include an amp.
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1. Luke Skywalker
2. Emperor Palpatine
4. Emperor Vitiate
5. Jacen Solo
6. Darth Plagueis
After that the lines blur a little bit.
Nihilus is an interesting case, Sinious. He's very much an abhorrent Dark Side abomination, much like a less-refined Vitiate, but canonically on a smaller scale. He does have some pretty dope feats of raw power, and any character who is proficient in the arts of severing others from the Force is dangerous to anyone. But then one must consider that supposedly Revan is more powerful than he is, so it's really kinda jumbled and hard to say with him. I actually wish we knew a little more about how apt he was in terms of lightsaber skill, tbh.
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