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Ground realities of the Sith of the reconstituted ancient Sith Empire
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Ground realities of the Sith of the reconstituted ancient Sith Empire

Sith Titles:

The Sith Order bestows a number of titles upon its followers, as befits their rank and power. These are the most common: Acolyte: A Sith acolyte has not yet completed his or her trials in the Sith Academy, and may well die before becoming truly "Sith." Sith: An acolyte who completes the trials and is accepted as the apprentice of a Sith Lord is considered Sith–no more, no less. Any non-Sith, however, is expected to refer to a Sith as "my lord" out of respect. Overseer: An instructor at the Sith Academy is called an overseer. Overseers are often Sith Lords, but that rank is not a requirement; they may simply be Sith with a talent for instruction. Sith Lord: A Sith who advances in the order’s hierarchy will eventually be elevated to Sith Lord. His or her name is preceded by "Lord" in formal address. In the modern Empire, "Dark Lord" is synonymous with this term. Darth: The strongest Sith Lords ascend to the position of Darth. Many take a new name at this point, symbolically embracing their transformation into something greater. Emperor: There has been only one Sith Emperor since the Great Hyperspace War over 1,300 years ago. He is supreme.

Taken from Star Wars: The Old Republic

Hierarchy:

1 - Emperor (Supremely powerful)
2 - Darth (Most powerful Sith Lords barring Emperor)
3 - Sith Lord*
4 - Sith* (Apprentice of a Sith Lord)
5 - Acolyte

*A Sith or Sith Lord can be an Overseer of the Sith Academy.

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Nephthys
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Baras gives a decent speech about this:

"There's no denying you are a master of the dark arts now. Only the most accomplished among us are named as lords among the Sith. You have more than earned the distinctions. I hereby confer the title of Sith Lord upon you. As lethal as you must be to become a lord, a Darth is the embodiment of death. Don't forget that."


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^^^

Thanks for the share. smile

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Wasn't this already, no offense, basic knowledge? In any case good job I suppose.


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What about the title of Sith Master?

Not too familiar with TOR, but I assumed that an apprentice served under a Sith Master, not necessarily a Sith Lord?

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The Sith Empire is actually my favourite faction in all of the lore. It's a shame the stupidity is so prevalent amongst it's subjects.


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What about the title of Sith Master?

Not too familiar with TOR, but I assumed that an apprentice served under a Sith Master, not necessarily a Sith Lord?

No. Lords are comparable to Jedi Masters. Darths are comparable to council level Jedi Masters.

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Emperor
Dark Council
Darth
Lord
Apprentice
Acolyte
Slave

Lords are more or less the equivalents to Jedi Knights, and Darth's Jedi Masters, but Freshest is more or less correct in the assertion that the Sith are more often than not stronger than the Jedi tend to be.


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Darth seems to be a more exclusive level than a Jedi Master. I'd probably assume a Darth is stronger.


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I would think that Jedi Master is more exclusive of a title than it's generally thought to be, tbh.


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They don't compare, title wise. Stop trying to force it.

Titles mean nothing in power anyway. A knight took on Darth Angral, so...


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Exceptions don't make a system worthless.


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Except there is literally no basis for saying Jedi ranks are based on power.


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I'd agree that 'Sith Lord' is more the equivalent of 'Jedi Master,' and TOR Empire 'Darth' is more equal to famed masters or even Jedi council members. It's somewhat of an in-between rank that doesn't have a direct Jedi equivalent.

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Except there is literally no basis for saying Jedi ranks are based on power.


Eh, Masters *tend* to be more experienced and stronger than Knights, and a Knight who's a powerful warrior tends to be promoted.

Jedi do not base their ranks on power alone, they have ways to advance without power, but power is one way to advance- especially in times of war but not exclusively then (Ki-Adi Mundi got promoted for his skill as a warrior). And even those who get promoted for other reasons, 'deep insight in the force' or 'really good at training,' often leads back to power at least some.


For that matters, Sith can advance in ways other than direct power, like manipulation and ruthless use of knowledge and politics. If you have a network of contacts and assassins, you may end up advancing better than those stronger than you.


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Yeah, well generally I'd bet on a Jedi Master over a Sith Lord as it's defined in SWTOR.


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Becoming a Master does have more to do with becoming wise, calm, and able to control one's emotions than with power. But, a Jedi Master can't be a Jedi Master without being a powerful combatant, that's for sure. I think that's just a prerequisite. Jedi Master in terms of power is at the very least equal to the most powerful Knights. No less.

I'd take a Master over a Lord most of the time, but I'd take a regular Darth over a regular Master.


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