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Is the Darth Plagueis novel Quasi-canon?
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The Merchant
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Is the Darth Plagueis novel Quasi-canon?

Ultimate Star Wars mentions that Palpatine was the apprentice of Darth Plagueism so yeah just wondering people's thoughts.


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No.

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Why is it whenever someone or something is mentioned, people think all related material is somehow canon now?....Just because someone is mentioned or something is, doesn't mean anything else about it is canon from previous works. It could be a completely different character or events or thing that happened.


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Isn't Plagueis already mentioned in ROTS? I though Disney automatically took the movies as canon.


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Isn't Plagueis already mentioned in ROTS? I though Disney automatically took the movies as canon.


He is mentioned, but it's the fact that Palps was taught by him, doesn't mean that the Plagueis novel is canon or any other works relating.

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Oh yeah, I must've skipped the word "novel" when I read the title and just saw Is Darth Plagueis Quasi- canon? lol


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No, but it is likely to be in the future all things considered.


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Then that makes Depa Billaba's coma; Shatterpoint canon

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Plagueis as a character does exist, because RotS made it canon. But yeah, the novel is a whole other story.


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Then that makes Depa Billaba's coma; Shatterpoint canon



There have been several hints in the existing canon that Shatterpoint is canon.

-Those factors being a passage in the ROTS novel that refers to Depa and Bulq being fallen Jedi.

- Depa being mentioned in the Kanan comic as having similar plots to shatterpoint.


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The novelizations aren't canon.

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The novelizations aren't canon.


Yeah they are. The parts that expressly contradict the movie aren't.

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Nah. They are only canon when they align with the films. The EU parts are gone. And this makes sense as much of that has been contradicted by the new stuff already.

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I doubt the Council would have Depa take on a Padawan after all the war crimes she committed in Shatterpoint.

And Plagueis being Palpatine's master was also mentioned in Tarkin I believe.


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It was indeed.

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I doubt the Council would have Depa take on a Padawan after all the war crimes she committed in Shatterpoint.

And Plagueis being Palpatine's master was also mentioned in Tarkin I believe.


Not all the events of Shatterpoint have to be canon for the general gist of the plot to be canon. Also she was under Vastor's DS influence as well. Extenuating circumstances. Did she commit that many war crimes?

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Nah. They are only canon when they align with the films. The EU parts are gone. And this makes sense as much of that has been contradicted by the new stuff already.



Do you have a source on this? Because I'm pretty sure it was stated that the novelizations are canon, but I may be wrong.


Anyway I'd take Star Wars: Plagueis similar to how I take the rest of Legends. Accounts of events...legends in universe that may or may not be true.


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Originally posted by ares834 Nah. They are only canon when they align with the films.


And they align with the films whenever they don't contradict the films.

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Originally posted by ares834 The EU parts are gone.


Only if they contradict the films.

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Originally posted by Col. Valerian Plagueis as a character does exist, because RotS made it canon.


ROTS itself, taken in isolation, is somewhat vague on the subject, allowing for the possibility that Palpatine is making the whole thing up ( if Rick McCallum's input on the commentary is ignored ). But as previously stated in the thread, Plagueis as Palpatine's master is certified by Tarkin.


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Do you have a source on this? Because I'm pretty sure it was stated that the novelizations are canon, but I may be wrong.


Yes, Pablo Hidalgo. The guy who is pretty much head of the new story group.

We've also got the official announcement basically saying they are dumping the EU which the novelizations were predominantly considered to be. By contrast the only source claiming they are canon is DelRey's twitter. And not only do they have no say in the canon process, but they released a clarifying tweet which can be just as easily interpreted as them saying the novels aren't canon.

Heck, parts of the novelization have already been contradicted and we are getting new adaptations of the OT. Seems pretty cut and dry that they aren't canon.

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