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What if Obi Wan had continued training?
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What if Obi Wan had continued training?

He was already Dooku tier as a duelist and Maul tier as a Force wielder in his thirties; could he have eventually beaten Tyranus?


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Re: What if Obi Wan had continued training?

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He was already Dooku tier as a duelist and Maul tier as a Force wielder in his thirties; could he have eventually beaten Tyranus?
Yes.


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Impossible to tell. Perhaps he reached his limits as of ROTS. And being a bit stronger, or even stronger in the Force, would not put him in Dooku's overall league. At least in Legends, Kenobi's Force talent was moderate as I remember. If Qui-Gon wouldn't take him as a student, he would even wont become a jedi knight.
Dooku on the other hand, was confirmed as one of the most talented jedi in the Order. Perhaps Kenobi could never reach his level.
But perhaps he will, if Disney will decide to show him in his prime during Rebels for example.

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M, I'll respond to you in the Vitiate thread soon, so look out for that.


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No. Both Dooku and Kenobi were near or at their full potential


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I think he would've gotten a smidgen better, able to duel evenly with Dooku. As for seeing him in his "prime" in Rebels, they better NOT as its 2 years before A New Hope and their is no way he can be in ROTS prime and then deteriorate in 2 years. No way.

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No. Both Dooku and Kenobi were near or at their full potential


Considering not even RotJ Sidious was, that's f-ucking bullshit. In other words a usual Kurk post thumb up


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Considering not even RotJ Sidious was, that's f-ucking bullshit. In other words a usual Kurk post thumb up

Everyone reaches the point of diminishing returns. So I guess no; no-one ever reaches their true potential—it just takes a lot more time and energy for very little gain.


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Originally posted by cs_zoltan
Considering not even RotJ Sidious was, that's f-ucking bullshit. In other words a usual Kurk post thumb up


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To be honest, Ben was only in his 50's and already crying about how he's to old, he wouldn't have advanced much.


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It's almost as if he was hiding out on some backwater world rather than working out and battling evil every day.

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Impossible to tell. Perhaps he reached his limits as of ROTS. And being a bit stronger, or even stronger in the Force, would not put him in Dooku's overall league. At least in Legends, Kenobi's Force talent was moderate as I remember. If Qui-Gon wouldn't take him as a student, he would even wont become a jedi knight.


I think Obi Wan was a late bloomer whose potential just wasn't apparent early on for whatever reason. Think Tom Brady.


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For a 38 year old lightsider to reach his full potential is ****ing laughable.


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For a 38 year old lightsider to reach his full potential is ****ing laughable.
I thought he was 35.


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You thought wrong.


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I think he would've gotten a smidgen better, able to duel evenly with Dooku. As for seeing him in his "prime" in Rebels, they better NOT as its 2 years before A New Hope and their is no way he can be in ROTS prime and then deteriorate in 2 years. No way.



Who says he has to deteriorate?

In any case, Rebels Ben only has to be good enough to take out Rebels Maul. You can decide for yourself what level that is.

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Do aging people get better or worse with physical skill levels in their fifties ?


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Do aging people get better or worse with physical skill levels in their fifties ?

well it depends. You could be a complete a fat-ass in your thirties and turn yourself around later.


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well it depends. You could be a complete a fat-ass in your thirties and turn yourself around later.



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Quanchi's never done a hard day's work in his life, so wouldn't grasp the concept.

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well it depends. You could be a complete a fat-ass in your thirties and turn yourself around later.
That isn't the same thing. we are assuming their level of practice, diet, training as stayed relatively the same. Michael Jordan in his 20's is better than in his fifties. Facts, kiddo.


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