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To Those Who Like the New Film

Why?

What are your reasonings?

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Because:

1.) it was original
2.) it was unpredictable and bold
3.) the SJW agenda didn't feel forced


It was a good film relative to TFA. It's nothing special by itself, but then again a lot of people think SW movies are stupid to begin with.


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Because:

1.) it was original
2.) it was unpredictable and bold
3.) the SJW agenda didn't feel forced


It was a good film relative to TFA. It's nothing special by itself, but then again a lot of people think SW movies are stupid to begin with.


1. no it was ROTJ and ESB crammed into one.
2.unpredictable ain't always a good thing, especially when they **** things so bad.
3. you are joking, they spent 30 minutes bitching about capitalism, and how it's bad. An having a Purple head Female in charge, and being right, while Poe was wrong. And That Rose *****, a literal diversity hire. Also Leia supermaning back into the ship, when she didn't pursue a career as a jedi master, Rey ****ING learning another to contend with KYLO REN, in like One of two training sessions. It was forced and ruined, several moments that had so much more potential..

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I think TLJ was a mixture of some of the best and worst moments I've ever seen in film.


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An having a Purple head Female in charge, and being right, while Poe was wrong.


This is a retarded criticism. Poe is a young hotshot pilot who at the start lost half their fleet due to his need to bring down a dreadnought. If the Admiral was a man he'd react the same goddamned way. Poe was acting perfectly within character, and any ranking officer would berate him for his frankly insubordinate behavior.


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This is a retarded criticism. Poe is a young hotshot pilot who at the start lost half their fleet due to his need to bring down a dreadnought. If the Admiral was a man he'd react the same goddamned way. Poe was acting perfectly within character, and any ranking officer would berate him for his frankly insubordinate behavior.


Dude, she didn't tell him her plan, which played a role in his subordination. I'm fine with the demotion, but not informing him was stupid, and plot made him go and waste 30 minutes of the movie. Dude they literally shafted Admiral Ahkbar, and established character, and had him killed off randomly, do you realise how much better the scene would be if Ahkbar replaced that force Purple hair'd female, when she crashed they ship, it would hold so much more emotion, and be flat out better.

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Dude, she didn't tell him her plan, which played a role in his subordination. I'm fine with the demotion, but not informing him was stupid, and plot made him go and waste 30 minutes of the movie. Dude they literally shafted Admiral Ahkbar, and established character, and had him killed off randomly, do you realise how much better the scene would be if Ahkbar replaced that force Purple hair'd female, when she crashed they ship, it would hold so much more emotion, and be flat out better.

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Originally posted by Lord Stark
This is a retarded criticism. Poe is a young hotshot pilot who at the start lost half their fleet due to his need to bring down a dreadnought. If the Admiral was a man he'd react the same goddamned way. Poe was acting perfectly within character, and any ranking officer would berate him for his frankly insubordinate ]behavior.


It's not about logic dude. Snowflake bigots got triggered hard by a man getting humbled by a woman superior and all the other percieved "SJW propaganda" in the film.

These people are generally scum and not worth trying to reason with.


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But she had pink hair. mad

Also, capitalism = child slavery, animal abuse and war profiteering? laughing out loud


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Ackbar crashing the ship would have been epic if the voice actor were alive, yeah. Granted the whole scene was a massive plot hole but oh well.


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Originally posted by Nephthys
It's not about logic dude. Snowflake bigots got triggered hard by a man getting humbled by a woman superior and all the other percieved "SJW propaganda" in the film.

These people are generally scum and not worth trying to reason with.


Dude, I would not give a shit if it were leia, but she was randomly pulled out of their ass. It's when they force feed it into the narrative of the films, is when I get pissed.

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The audience would instantly trust Ackbar though, it'd be obvious he had a good plan. The plot would fall apart in that case imo.


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Dude, she didn't tell him her plan, which played a role in his subordination. I'm fine with the demotion, but not informing him was stupid, and plot made him go and waste 30 minutes of the movie. Dude they literally shafted Admiral Ahkbar, and established character, and had him killed off randomly, do you realise how much better the scene would be if Ahkbar replaced that force Purple hair'd female, when she crashed they ship, it would hold so much more emotion, and be flat out better.


Which is how military and paramilitary organizations ****ing work. An Admiral is by no means obligated to share the details of a plan with a Commander, especially one who was just ****ing demoted by as previous commanding officer's last order.

I agree it would have been awesome if Ackbar were in that role, but the actor died (before filming I think). It seemed a bit more appropriate not to overuse the role when he died so recently.


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I'm sure they could of found a replacement voice actor for him.
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The audience would instantly trust Ackbar though, it'd be obvious he had a good plan. The plot would fall apart in that case imo.
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Which is how military and paramilitary organizations ****ing work. An Admiral is by no means obligated to share the details of a plan with a Commander, especially one who was just ****ing demoted by as previous commanding officer's last order.

I agree it would have been awesome if Ackbar were in that role, but the actor died (before filming I think). It seemed a bit more appropriate not to overuse the role when he died so recently.


You do see the contradiction, with Leia. Carrie Fisher.

That admiral, should of known Poe couldn't sit still, hence why he was demoted. She should of at least took actions to prevent Poe from doing something. Or simply tell him to reassure him, considering he has massive influence within the Resistance.
it would of been more beneficial than less to tell him.

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The audience would instantly trust Ackbar though, it'd be obvious he had a good plan. The plot would fall apart in that case imo.


Shows what a shit plot it was.

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Ackbar kamikazing into the ship would've been perfect when you account for his name wink

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Regarding the FO vs. Resistance plot line, are we actually supposed to believe that the New Republic, which controlled a plurality of the galaxy with its own galactic government, military, police force, etc., was reduced to three hundred or so combatants in the course of a few days of its capital being taken out?

To put that in perspective, there were more holdouts loyal to France, a single country, after the start of the second World War than to the New Republic in an entire galaxy of hundreds of billions of star systems. Heck, there are more than 300 neo-nazis in a single U.S. state today!

Like seriously it kind of makes me laugh.


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Regarding the FO vs. Resistance plot line, are we actually supposed to believe that the New Republic, which controlled a plurality of the galaxy with its own galactic government, military, police force, etc., was reduced to three hundred or so combatants in the course of a few days of its capital being taken out?

To put that in perspective, there were more holdouts loyal to France, a single country, after the start of the second World War than to the New Republic in an entire galaxy of hundreds of billions of star systems. Heck, there are more than 300 neo-nazis in a single U.S. state today!

Like seriously it kind of makes me laugh.

Is it that hard to believe, though? In Episodes I and II, it's apparent the Galactic Republic has no army besides the Jedi.

With the Military Disarmament Act, the existing fleet at the end of the Battle of Jakku was cut by 90%.

Frankly, the fleet seen in Episode 7 seems to be of larger or at least comparable scale to the Galactic Republic's before the clone army.

Anyway, the remaining forces of the treaty were either sent to the capital world or training the local armed forces of Republic member worlds.

The latter part is implicitly mentioned in the crawl when it states the First Order is deploying its legions to seize military control.

It's apparent that all of the First Order resources not shown in the D'Qar / Crait battles are being devoted to combat these hold-out Republic worlds.

That being said, I'd say it's safe to assume the First Order was victorious in the vast majority of the battles.


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