The Visual Dictionary states Kylos full potential will allow him to defeat Luke according to Snoke. At the same time, Snoke thinks FP Kylo is Vader level, implying Vaders level as of now isn't achieved by anyone barring TLJ Luke. What do.you guys think?
__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
I'm not really sure of anything anymore regarding the ST, since the two movies seem different and getting a gauge of anything is gonna be troubling since...there's only 2 Force Users now.
You sure @Ellimist? The way he talks about Vader is Kylo should be just like him along with Reys accusation of not being as strong as Vader supports that.
__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
That's all just bullshit talk. Neither Snoke nor Kylo were ever in Vader's presence, or Sidious' presence for that matter. There is no metric record of Vader's power level stored somewhere for them to compare Kylo to.
Snoke is just dangling the mythical Vader carrot in front of Kylo to get him to focus, because of their family connection.
In the TCW series when Dooku is training Savage he tells him "soon you'll rival the great Sith Lord Darth Maul in power" or words to that effect. Of course, Dooku had never met Maul at that point. And his statement turned out to be bullshit anyway.
Not only does your reasoning not make sense, as both Maul and Vader were presences in the Dark Side that could be felt across the galaxy, but also Savage definitely had the potential to eclipse Maul, and was rapidly approaching that.
It can't possibly cap at Vader level. I know that this particular story doesn't need a "New villain more powerful than EVER BEFORE! Will the heroes survive this new threat?!", but Disney has been scaling everything up because I think that makes more money. And if you believe that Snoke is that presence Sidious felt from the Unknown Regions, then yeah, Snoke is already much more powerful than Vader.
These new Star Wars movies are CW-istic. Don't expect to logic.
__________________ RealistRacism: "Sheevites, much like the Banites, were meant to increase in power with each member. From Lightsnake to Gideon to Azronger, this was supposed to be the case. However, knowledge must've been lost in some kind of Gravid-like incident, as Az turned out to be a mid-tier debater with a sub-par track record, sh!itting all over Tempest's legacy. Sad."
Jan 19th, 2018 09:55 PM
