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Was Luke's projection in TLJ solid?
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Sheev
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Was Luke's projection in TLJ solid?

When he wanted it to be, could the projection Luke sent to Crait become solid? I only ask because when he touched Leia's hand and gave her the dice, he appeared to be solid. But when he let Kylo flay him with the saber, he was obviously not solid any longer.

Also, the dice Luke gave Leia didn't disappear until a few minutes AFTER he died. How is that possible?


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Because the movie has no logic.

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I mean, Luke's robe(and hair) were literally flapping in the wind during his entire 'fight' with Kylo:

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So the projection must've had at least *some* sort of [partially] solid composition to it. /shrug


As for why Luke's dice construct outlived Luke himself: I have no idea. Perhaps after Luke died, he chose to troll Kylo one last time by sustaining the dice from beyond the grave long enough for Kylo to see/hold them..?

Dunno. The movie sucks.


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Because the movie has no logic.


Exactly.

Wasn't it stated somewhere that Leia couldn't feel Luke and knew it was fake? Maybe in the novel.


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Exactly.

Wasn't it stated somewhere that Leia couldn't feel Luke and knew it was fake? Maybe in the novel.
Yeah, Leia knew it was a projection in the novel the moment he/it touched her.


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^ And yet she didnt push for the escape ASAP, knowing very well Luke was just a distraction?

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by ares834
Because the movie has no logic.


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^ And yet she didnt push for the escape ASAP, knowing very well Luke was just a distraction?


Leia wasn't aware there was a way of escaping. If Luke was a projection, then obviously he wouldn't have needed an entrance to the base. Besides, she had clearly lost all hope.

To answer the question, yes, the illusion had some form of solidity. It kisses Leia and she is able to touch the dice. Both "Luke" and the dice vanish, and Kylo's saber just goes through Luke as if he weren't there, but the illusion can be somewhat solid. It's a bit confusing tbh.

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Leia wasn't aware there was a way of escaping. If Luke was a projection, then obviously he wouldn't have needed an entrance to the base. Besides, she had clearly lost all hope.



So what did she think Lukes projection was there for?

Po without knowing he was a projection worked out he was distracting the FO for the Resistance to escape. And yet Leia knowing full well Luke was a projection didnt think what his reason for being there was?

Sure.

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So what did she think Lukes projection was there for?

Po without knowing he was a projection worked out he was distracting the FO for the Resistance to escape. And yet Leia knowing full well Luke was a projection didnt think what his reason for being there was?

Sure.


Ehh, maybe to say goodbye or something? Because even if Luke didn't die, it was nearly certain for her to die.

Or maybe she was too demoralized to figure anything out.

Or maybe Rian Johnson just overlooked that detail, which isn't implausible.

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What if Luke had intercourse and solidified his wiener and semen? Could he theoretically impregnate someone and then drop the projection once they get pregnant?
Would that abort the baby or would the mix have already taken shape?

Did the book cover that perchance?


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the real question is why don't we care that luke kissed leia without her consent?


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the real question is why don't we care that luke kissed leia without her consent?


Oh no...


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Yeah it appears to be solid. It flaps in the wind, as noted. It kicks up dirt and casts a shadow. Kylo and Leia were both capable of holding Luke's illusion of Han's dice, and even droids and the targeting systems of the walkers could detect him.

That means that not only was he visible but he was visible on multiple spectrums. It is actually pretty much the greatest illusion feat in the setting, that I can think of.

Naga Sadow's illusions in ToTJ weren't solid, were they?


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Luke's illusion/projection feat in DE #5 is comparable, though the TLJ feat was obviously done from a vastly greater distance.


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It's pretty much the Doppleganger technique.


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It's an after-image. A speed mirage, if you will.


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If you knew what I am talking about, you'd keep your keyboard in the pantry.

I was referencing Wellsobard's Speed Mirages on The Flash TV show where he could beat himself up. Basically: Speed Force. I am not gonna explain shit. So it was with this particular scene in the Star Wars movie with Luke.


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