There’s not much to go off of scaling-wise to compare him to PT characters. He was able to knockout Luke with the force, which is a pretty impressive feat. Other than that, based on what we know of his bloodline/potential and years of experience, he should be comparable to ROTJ Luke/RoTS Anakin
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^ Wouldn't have it been the building that KO'd Luke, not so much Kylo himself? But anyway though, he does have some pretty high end feats with the Temple and ship crashing one. Although others even Non-Force Users have survived ship crashes into planets soo?...
It seems he's not as powerful as he should be. At first, he seemed to have potential, being the best student by far and all. By TLJ, though, Snoke was disappointed that Kylo wasn't turning out like he'd hoped. So what we get from that is that while he's good, he's not Vader/Luke level.
@ Eli
Now, assuming that RotS Anakin was stronger than Dooku and about equal to Windu (which I don't like to, because it causes scaling like the following), then:
Dooku<Anakin<Vader
Kylo<Vader
Kylo ~ Anakin
Kylo ~< Dooku
@Zenwolf
I've never understood why that's supposed to be this amazing feat. I mean it looks cool and all, but can it really be that hard?
Snoke was only disappointed that killing Han split Kylo’s spirit and that he was bested by Rey, which we know now is because she gained his skill through their dyad. Also the TRoS novel states that Kylo would have defeated her easily if it wasn’t for his injury.
Sidious even says “Snoke trained you well”. So I don’t see Snoke’s disappontment having much significance.
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So you forget what Snoke said about him at the end of the film prior to him killing him. He used that tactic to lure Rey in through Ren. He flat out said it. Ren was powerful as ****. Luke remarked how powerful both he and Ren were.
Don’t forget about controlling the transport shuttle in TRoS. Probably one of the best on-screen TK feats in Star Wars, second only to Sidious and Yoda throwing the senate pods. Unless I’m forgetting some
__________________ "Vader's pulse and breathing were machine-regulated, so they could not quicken; but something in his chest became more electric around his meetings with the Emperor; he could not say how. A feeling of fullness, of power, of dark and demon mastery -- of secret lusts, unrestrained passion, wild submission -- all these things were in Vader's heart as he neared his Emperor. These things and more."
https://ew.com/movies/2017/11/22/st...noke-backstory/
"'His training of Kylo Ren is not yielding what he wants,' Serkis says. 'Therefore his anger towards Kylo Ren is intensified because he can’t bear weakness in others.'"
What did he say at the end of the film? luring Rey through him? How does that make him powerful?
Oh, and sorry, I mistyped in my original post, I meant to say
"Kylo ~> Dooku," not "Kylo ~< Dooku"
"It is where you are from. What you are made of. The Dark Side—and the Light. The finest sculptor cannot fashion a masterpiece from poor materials. He must have something pure, something strong, something unbreakable, with which to work."
-Snoke, TFA novelization
"Following through on the act ought to have made him stronger, a part of him believed. Instead, he found himself weakened."
-TFA novelization
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