I thought it was so hypocritical that all of the newspapers hated her for leaving her husband for somebody else, and as soon as she died, they thought of her as some kind of a saint or something.
It was my birthday when she died, because I got up early in the morning to see if I had gotten any presents, and it was on the news that she had died just a few hours ago.
I agree 100%. I could not give two shits about this woman.
She wandered around like a glorified soccer mom and the world acts like she cured cancer.
It may very well be tragic that she endured harassment and constant media attention, but if the very people who bemoan how tragic her life was and how terribly it ended, weren't the same people who went out and bought the very papers that made her life hell, I might have a better understanding of it
Perhaps some of our friends from across the pond can explain why anyone cares about British royalty? And more importantly, perhaps they can explain why I have to hear about her on US news outlets, for the next two months, just because she died ten years ago.
Hopefully, people don't really give two shits about "celebrities" like this and it's all the media telling us how much of a hard-on we have for this chick. (10 fu*king years later!)
Princess Diana and Mother Teresa croak at the same time, and ten years later I still have to see the pinhead wandering around with legless Africans and all you hear about Mother Teresa was that she wasn't really "into" the religion thing?
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Diana wasn't a phony as some royalty are. She was nice. She was very very kind. She was great for the world. Shame she's gone. R.I..P., You will be missed.
Since when did people have to conjure up a fancy list of worldly achievements to consider themselves worthy of love and empathy. Lady Di didn't built a rocket to Mars, but she didn't have to.
I hate the brit royals. Diana is the only exception because she wasn't just another distant glorified symbolic figure on the world stage. She exposed her all to the public. She was stuck in such an unfortunate situation that the public was ALL.she.had. And yess we DID know her because she herself made sure we did.
The loss of her was like a loss of a friend and a neighbour.
Nobody with sense gives a shit about the British Monarchy, as they're nothing more than an archaic relic that holds zero relevance and serves to do nothing more then rob people of their money. The most common argument is; "It's not a lot of money though.", so what? You pay my part if you think it's so cheap and such a good idea. If people want them around for some dumb reason, then let them pay.
Turgid horsecrap.
"She didn't have to.", exactly. She didn't have to do anything, people would have loved her because the papers decided she was someone everyone had to love. She was absolutely nothing more than a glorified symbol, she lived a life of luxury paid for by everyone else, and then had the nerve to assume she had a "common touch" because she posed for cameras in third world countries.
You didn't know her, at all. You knew her as much as you know anybody you see on TV. You knew the Diana from TV. Unless you met her and spent time with her, you knew nothing of her.
If she were still around now, as one British journalist said, she'd be desperately attaching herself to whatever the latest issue is, probably global warming.
There was a headline today; "Best Mother in the World.", what the f*ck? Somehow she's a better mother than everyone else because she was famous and acted (Yes, acted) like one of "us"? It's crap, and so was she.
Why do we need another memorial? Mother Theresa didn't get a quarter of the coverage, and if you're gonna tell me Diana did anything close, then you're more of a blind, media driven sheep than you appear to be now. EDIT: I didn't even realise somehow had raised Mother Theresa in this thread either, it just goes to show.
I'm not sad she's gone, or glad she's gone, I couldn't give a crap that she's gone. She did absolutely nothing genuine, at all. To compare her loss to a friend dying would offend me to the highest degree if a friend of mine said that.
You're right, not everyone does need to have worldly achievements to be worthy of love and empathy, but they do need to earn the love and empathy. If you're giving it to her for nothing, at least admit that. Stop giving us the bs of "She was a woman of the people.", she wasn't. She was a leech. The people did more for her than she ever did for the people. The people kept her rich, she kept our papers full of turgid rubbish for years after her death. Nice exchange.
One man was almost beaten to death because he washed his car on the day Diana died, or an anniversary of the death. Lack of respect for Diana, you see (Sarcasm). It's just a case of deranged fools investing way too much in people they really don't know.
To quote the aforementioned reporter; "Surely the form is; you have the ceremony, you grieve, you move on. Why are we having another memorial? What's THIS one about? She's already had a pop concert dedicated to her this Summer. There was a candlelit vigil at Graceland for Elvis's 30th anniversary but at least he made some decent records. When Elvis died RCA said he'd made a great career move, and the same can be said for Diana. She was already approaching her Norma Desmond years when she died in the Alma tunnel. Had she lived, she'd probably be rattling around some dusty chateau surrounded by autographed pics of Duran Duran, bemoaning to her faithful butler that she was still big, the world just got small.".
Most of the people who are saddened by her loss are the people who rightfully didn't give a shit when she was alive, and were guilted into being sad. "Look! She did all this stuff and you don't care!", "Shiiit, better start caring.".
Come on people, why is it soo hard to talk about things you know?
What in the world is your point?!
she was privileged and she acknowledged and lived that life to its fullest extent. Human suffering is universal, no amount of cash and privileges could have spared diana the repeated stabs at her heart that she experienced throughout her short life.
The papers never had anything good to say about her during her life, all they did was exploit her. The rest of the non-tabloid based information she personally made sure to be delivered to the public.
I know i know her a lot better than you do.
Did you even bother to read the conxext?!
It was Harry's comment about HIS mother. He bloody well has every right in the world to designate her whatever title he wishes.
Because its human nature. We care. We love. We empathize.
Maybe not ideally, but meh welcome to the world.
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HOW do you have ANY way of proving she wasn't genuine? One look at her and all i ever saw was a true and genuinely good but troubled person. Its not rocket science reading people. I don't need to know her personally to gauge the meaning of a gesture here, a morbid gaze there.
To quote the aforementioned reporter; "Surely the form is; you have the ceremony, you grieve, you move on. Why are we having another memorial? What's THIS one about? She's already had a pop concert dedicated to her this Summer. There was a candlelit vigil at Graceland for Elvis's 30th anniversary but at least he made some decent records. When Elvis died RCA said he'd made a great career move, and the same can be said for Diana. She was already approaching her Norma Desmond years when she died in the Alma tunnel. Had she lived, she'd probably be rattling around some dusty chateau surrounded by autographed pics of Duran Duran, bemoaning to her faithful butler that she was still big, the world just got small.".
Most of the people who are saddened by her loss are the people who rightfully didn't give a shit when she was alive, and were guilted into being sad. "Look! She did all this stuff and you don't care!", "Shiiit, better start caring.".
One man was almost beaten to death because he washed his car on the day Diana died, or an anniversary of the death. Lack of respect for Diana, you see (Sarcasm). It's just a case of deranged fools investing way too much in people they really don't know.
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Explain what kinds of things make people worth loving and empathizing with.
You are so bitter and cynical all the ****ing time.Maybe let go of marginalizing people and concepts that don't fit into your boxed up view of everything?
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i can't argue on an empty stomach. but yesss do continue if you so fancy.
That your point is faulty, you didn't know her and she did nothing to deserve the praise she gets. You got an argument to counter that? Present it.
How do you know? You don't have a clue, you knew her as well as I did. WHO paid for her life? The people. Society did more for her than she EVER did for them.
Don't give me that crap. Stabs at her heart? Oh, the Queen didn't like her, she had a bad relationship, the press bugged her. Big deal, that happens in every day life and WORSE. She was not more important because she was famous. If you have no argument to support your over-dramatic praise of this useless woman, admit it's for nothing, but don't sit there trying to conjure up words that the British press have used for ten years to no effect.
The tabloids gave you a story, she gave you another. Why do you automatically assume everything she said was entirely true, credible and without need to be questioned?
Are you American?
We've both met her zero times, we've both been exposed to the same news stories. You know her no better than anybody here, sorry if that upsets you, but it's true. You know her no better than you know anyone in the press.
You know what she wanted to tell you, that doesn't make it true. That's like people claiming Bush is a good man cos he says "nice stuff".
Yeah, it's bullshit. What's your point? Nothing you've said so far as been a convincing argument in favour of the woman. It all amounts to "I like her.".
Did you bother to read that the Daily Mail said it also?
Human nature is also stupidity, as proven in this case. You have zero reason to give her praise. I have a counter for every single accolade you can put upon her to show she doesn't deserve the praise, certainly not ten years worth of praise. There are undeniably more deserving people who get less praise.
So you ultimately believe whatever you see on TV? If George Bush looked genuine, you'd just accept it without a second thought? Proof of my argument. You believe and empathise as you are told you, you adhere to what the media designates priority on.
I don't truly love anybody I've never met, that's called logic. Respect and empathy? That would require acts that are noticeable and of subsequent visible benefit to the world. All she ever did, to our eyes, was stand around in front of cameras with African children.
Do you have any proof to the contrary? She did nothing, as far as we know. There are people doing far greater active work, with genuine results. Nothing she did yielded change, nothing she did changed the way things are in Africa, and you want to know the worst part?
She stands next to a starving African and the first/only thing you idiots notice is Diana, not the state of Africa, Diana. If she truly didn't care about posing for fame, she'd have gone without cameras, undercover, donating her money. She didn't.
Or maybe just stop letting the media tell you who is and who isn't important. Diana did nothing, and all you have to support your argument is an irrational love of this overblown celebrity. Am I wrong? Give me your argument.
It is all hysteria with Diana indeed though. And poor old Princess Anne, who has done much better charity work than Diana ever did but simply wasn't a visual stunner so wasn't deified for it. Speaks volumes, that.
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