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Ffx Omg Help!!!!

ok, this has been bugging me for months now.. i just cant seem to beat him! u kow when ur in the mountains and you end up fighting with seymore, except this time he's kinda mounted on a mortibody? (god i hope someone knows where i mean!!!!) well i just can't beat it! i've managed to get him down to about 3,000HP but then he kills me in one go. I have all my Aeons charged to overdrive and hit him with my most powerfull attacks first to try and get him down as much as poss.....is there something i'm doing wrong? can someone plz help me!!!!!


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Get all your aeons to Overdrive if you can, before you start the battle. Cast Hastega, and start out byusing the aeons' overdrive. Don't bother attacking Seymour himself, instead concentrate on attacking the Mortiochris. Also cast Reflect on Seymour, so that when the Mortiochris tries to heal him, it heals someone in your party instead. Also keep a good number of Holy Waters, because Seymour with use Lance of Atrophy to inflict Zombie on one of your characters, and then he'll cast Full-Life his next turn.

Good Luck!


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Gender: Male
Location: The Grand Vestibule

---Seymour Flux---
HP: 70,000
Sensor: Watch out for their combo attacks.
Steal:
Lancet: None
Strength: 30
Magic: 15
Immunities: Power Break, Magic Break, Armor Break, Mental Break,
Confusion, Berserk, Provoke, Threaten, Sleep, Darkness, Slow, Eject,
Doom, KO, Zombie, and Petrification
Scan: Predict the Mortiorchis's actions by watching Seymour's. His
Lance of Atrophy causes zombie, and the Mortiorchis follows with Full
Life. Together they unleash Total Annihilation.

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---Mortiorchis---
HP: 4,000/3,000/2,000/1,000
Sensor: Watch out for their combo attacks.
Steal:
Lancet: None
Strength: 40
Magic: 40
Immunities: Poison, Power Break, Magic Break, Armor Break, Mental
Break, Confusion, Berserk, Provoke, Threaten, Sleep, Silence, Darkness,
Haste, Slow, Eject, Doom, KO, Zombie, and Petrification
Scan: Beware its combo attacks. If a character is zombified by
Seymour's Lance of Atrophy, it will cast Full Life, causing instant KO.
Use Protect to help survive the Cross Cleave.

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One thing I'm sure most people HATE about this battle is that no matter
how pumped and ready they are to destroy Seymour, he generally still
annihilates them. He is surely one of the hardest bosses in the game,
and you can't really 100% on strategy this time. You will need power,
and possibly (gasp) even preparations!

I highly recommend getting both Yuna and Auron Zombie Ward armor, as
they tend to be very useful in this battle. They're the only ones that
can get Zombie Ward, anyway. If you dare, go back down Mount Gagazet
until you find Wantz, and purchase away! Lastly, if you would kindly
get one or two Aeons into Overdrive, it will most likely win you the
battle.

FIRST HALF
Use Hastega, for starters! Seymour Flux and Mortiorchis are both pretty
quick, and what's worse, they're deadly, so speed your guys up!

GREAT INFO from Split Infinity! If you use Delay Attack/Buster or Slow
on Mortiorchis, it will counter with Slowga! I can't believe I missed
that...Oh, right - make sure, for that reason, that you do NOT use
those on Mortiorchis.

Right after using Hastega, Seymour Flux will use his Lance of Atrophy.
This inflicts 600 points of damage, and adds Zombie status. This is
where Zombie Ward kicks in. It gives you about a 50% chance (close
enough, anyway) that the Zombie doesn't work. Why was this worth going
down Gagazet and back up? Because immediately afterward, Mortiorchis
uses Full-Life, instant KO to those with Zombie status!

Anyway, should you get Zombie inflicted and still have a turn, use a
Holy Water (Esuna doesn't work). He'll use Full-Life, anyway, and miss.
Otherwise, you're dead, and just use a Phoenix Down.

After the first one, you should get a couple of turns. Let Lulu once
again use Bio, which now does 1,400 points to Seymour BEFORE he gets a
turn, and have Wakka use Silence Attack (hope it works the first time).
Silence Attack is a great skill here! Use it often! Even get Wakka in
Haste while he's there! Seymour will use Lance of Atrophy twice before
and after he uses Dispel, so you know when to have him in Silence.

Then, make your party Tidus, Auron, and Yuna (if you've been using
Kimahri, and really want to use him, replace Tidus, but Rikku is fairly
useless here in a regular game). Have Yuna start to cast Protect on
everybody. Tidus should hit for about 2,000, while Auron hits for
4,000. Keep this up - hope that everybody hits Protect status.

If you did as you were told, Seymour won't be able to use Dispel! This
is good, as Dispel removes all augmentations (Haste and Protect, here).
Try to be done after about three Lance of Atrophy and Full-Life
attacks, and have everybody Defend (triangle). Mortibody (check the
turn chart, it's Boss(1)) will use Cross-Cleave, which deals around
2,000 points to each character regularly. If performed well, your Yuna
MAY survive. Hopefully Tidus will. Revive her, use Haste on her, use
Cure, and keep attacking.

2nd half (next post)


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SECOND HALF
Use another Silence Attack, and keep this up - I doubt he gets a second
Cross-Cleave. Make sure he's in Silence when he hits 35,000 HP, as he
will use Reflect, and on his next turn, Flare (which Yuna CAN survive
with Talk, but it's still powerful). GREAT INFO from Split Infinity
mentions that if you Dispel the Reflect and Seymour hits himself, it
will say "Failed counterstrike". Not all that important, but a tidbit
that will make this FAQ more complete.

What you have now is a rush to kill Seymour. When Seymour hits 35,000
HP, Mortiorchis will enter "Auto-Attack mode". On his next turn,
Mortiorchis will be "ready to annihilate". Seymour will just "wait" for
this grand attack once he has used his Flare. Finally, Mortiorchis will
use Total Annihilation.

Total Annihilation is no joke. If you were having trouble with Cross-
Cleave earlier, know that no Protect or Defending will save you. It's
VERY rare to see one survive this. It hits everybody for about 800
points, fires 10 random shots that do 800 apiece, and hits everybody
for 800 again. Thus, everybody loses 1,600 for sure, and 8,000 random
shots are fired around for anybody that could survive. Do NOT count on
surviving this by any means!

What you do here is do everything you can to win. And unless you are
some greatly leveled character, the Aeons I recommended will almost be
a necessary part of this strategy. Part of this is due to
Mortibsorption - when Mortiorchis dies, he absorbs some of Seymour's HP
and comes back to life, first 4,000, then 3,000, then 2,000, and then
forever more 1,000.

Notice that Seymour, again, uses Banish, so your Aeons only get one
turn, and cannot block Total Annihilation. For those that didn't notice
from Natus, Banish instantly kills an Aeon after his first turn.

Have Yuna call Bahamut with Mega-Flare ready. It should be doing at
least 9,000 points. With the 4,000 from Mortibsorption, that's around
13,000. Now call Shiva. She should do 9,999. With the 3,000 from
Mortibsorption, that, too is about 13,000. Out of his 35,000 HP, you
just removed 26,000, leaving 9,000. Note that a third Aeon guarantees a
win.

Have Auron and Tidus attack between turns. Each Auron and Tidus turn
should do around 3,000 (2,000 from Auron and 1,000 from Tidus), so if
you get one before Bahamut, after Bahamut, and after Shiva, you should
be fine (Hastega is essential!). If not, Lulu's Bio should finish up
any loose ends - even though Seymour only waits there!

WEAKER PARTY STRATEGY
Seymour may just be too fast, and even Cross-Cleave may prove out of
your league. In this case, try to nail Seymour down to 35,000 HP before
Cross-Cleave, and finish him before Total Annihilation. This will most
likely require that all Aeons be in Overdrive, but it may be a lot
easier for you. Just don't get stuck on this guy forever and quit this
game - he IS possibly the hardest in the game, but you can't give up!
He CAN be defeated!

ALTERNATIVE STRATEGY
Major credit to Split Infinity. As in the Natus battle, you can let Bio
do the damage to Flux and not see Total Annihilation. However, you
can't hit him, which means no Silence Attack, which means Dispel before
Cross-Cleave, which means no solid Protect. If you want to do this,
have Auron with Zombie Ward always at full HP. Make sure everybody
always defends before Cross-Cleave and you should immerge victorious!

SUMMARY
Use Hastega. Use Holy Wars to stop Zombie status and prevent Full-Life
KO. Use Bio and Silence Attack. Use Protect on everybody. Attack a lot
and survive Cross-Cleave (Defend for more HP afterwards). Bring him to
35,000 HP before a second Cross-Cleave, but try to make sure that he's
in Silence from Wakka's Silence Attack. Now, attack a LOT, and call at
least two Aeons with Overdrive before Total Annihilation. If not, try
Shooting Star for about 8,000 points and use any other Overdrives you
have. If Total Annihilation does hit you, just hope that the random
shots don't hit Auron, and if your hopes come true, you MIGHT be one of
the few lucky people that survive in the end and get three more long
turns to finish the job.


***If this doesnt work, try leveling more on Mt. Gagazet some more***


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seymour isn't that hard, i beat him everytime with kimahri (he's gotta have his revenge big grin ), have yuna on full overdrive, and if your lucky, have your aeons on full overdrive too, and unleash two overdrives with your stronger aeon (hard to do though). I don't know if talking to the bastard is a good idea, but i always do it. Cast Bio at the beginnig of battle on him (easy way to go) and slach him to death, when he does zombie on you, use holy water right away, then the bastard will do full life and if you were quick, you'll have that character fully healed.

i never even bother about the morti thingy, i just beat the crap out of seymour. Using reflect might work, i dunno though cuz i never tried it.

lady Y. was a much harderd battle than this one.

satsujin guide is great, i don't think you can't beat him with that, is everything fails, it means you are not strong enough yet, so level up

tips: never flee any ramdom fight, i know is annoying but you'll level up quickly.
used every single character, but dont kill the (random) fiend, before you used the characters, use abilities like cheer or steal but don't kill it. that way every one will get experience, then kill it
and if you able to do it, overkilled everything you can, especially bosses, (i don't know if you'd believe me, but i overkilled every boss in the game, including omega, except the ones in monster arena)


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Overdrive!


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ok, so i've tried all of that but it really don't wanna work! one thing tho, i think i may have gone the wrong route on the spere grid! which hasn't helped me much, but then i've got this far, so i can't see why i can't manage to kill him!!!!! mad


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Just spend some time leveling up then, When I got stuck on him I leveled up on Mt. Gagazet for a week or 2 and then tried again, repeat the process, but when you do decide to take on seymour again, make sure everyone has thier overdrive, its alot easier that way wink


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yeah! lol! i wudn't be able to get n e where if i hadn't had all my playersa and aeons's overdrive's full!!!


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did you beat him?


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Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
One thing I'm sure most people HATE about this battle is that no matter
how pumped and ready they are to destroy Seymour, he generally still
annihilates them. He is surely one of the hardest bosses in the game,
and you can't really 100% on strategy this time. You will need power,
and possibly (gasp) even preparations!


I actually found this battle to be ridicuously easy, but then again, I spent a looong time leveling up my characters while I was in the Calm Lands and making my way up Gagazet.


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Hehe, that was from an online guide...

I did find him a bit hard, but it was nothing that leveling up couldnt solve... I overkilled him after a weeks worth of levelin


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i just can't be doin with the whole levelin up thing! but i sposse i aint got much choice!!! but like i said before, i think i've gone the wrong way on the sphere grid as it was the first time i had played it so didn't really know what i was doin! now i regret that! i'm gonna have to retrace my steps which is gonna take forever! sad


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I dont think there is any wrong way on the sphere grid, the idea of the sphere grid was to create a unique group of characters. You should only require some leveling up, thats pretty much my final verdict... leveling up will get you the new skills / abilities you need to defeat seymour, Im pretty sure of that wink be strong!


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I didn't find him too hard...after I poisoned him


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ok guyz! thanx for the advice! i'll get on it tomorow! i just hope i can complete it b4 i'm tempted to buy FFX-2!! caus knowin me, wen it comes out i won't be able to resist it, and get it b4 i've even finished FFX!!!


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i've downloaded some of the FMVs from X-2, it looks amazing.... i didn't download n e of the ones that wud spoil it tho!! i managed to hold back!!!


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Heehee, you're better than I am...the only FMV I haven't seen from FFX-2 yet is the perfect ending...though I'm shooting for getting that right now (I've already beaten the game once, and am on my second way through) laughing out loud I love spoilers...


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