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Cool What sleeper hit/cult classic games do you own?

Games that are exceptionally good, but for some reason don't do well in the market. Games that receive bad professional reviews, but are viewed as masterpieces by the playing public. There are dozens of games like these, but how many do you have?

Beyond Good and Evil was a well-executed, truly interesting game whose only fault was the sadly short playtime. I have NO idea why this didn't sell, because virtually every magazine and review site recommended it.

Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem falls into both categories, really, but it still seems like it's in the top ten of GameCube titles after all this time. Dark, Lovecraftian, and literally insane at times, the only problem I have with this game is that to truly beat it, you have to play through the story three times under slightly different conditions. Other than that, an intriguing story and interesting play mechanics make this game a must have for any 17+ GameCube owner.

Killer7, one of the now infamous Capcom Five, boasts a wierd yet compelling story, an intriguing cast of characters, stylish presentation, and a nonconformist control scheme. Reviews blammed this game on the unconventional control scheme and large amount of adult content and gore, but the player base has managed to rebuild its reputation somewhat, and it's worth a look if you're into stylish insanity.


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Eternal Darkness, Killer 7, Max Payne 2, Chaos Legion (this game needs a sequal ASAP!) Outlaw Sport Series, and Haunting Ground.

I think that's it, everything else is mainstream, or sold well at one time.

I want Beyond Good and Evil, but Ubisoft games bother me, POP trilogy isn't as fun as I expected, I still can't bring myself to finish 3.


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Lunar 2: Eternal Blue Complete is a game I totally love (though sadly I never finished it, due to my PSX memory card resetting itself). It's gotten excellent reviews, though I know very few people who've ever heard it, and no one else who's played it. I've never ever seen it anywhere in a store beyond the time I found a copy and bought it (spent $35 on a used PS game...eesh...so worth it though), and as far as I can tell, it's a pretty rare game.


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Ah, I did indeed forget some:

Manhunt-It did sell in the US, never to the point of Greatest Hits, and the only advertising for it was negative advertising.

Tales Of Phantasia, Destiny, Destiny II (Eternia), Tales Of Legendia-The four in America that didn't sell, Symphonia did, 300K in the US. I don't understand why people don't play this series, probably too brainwashed by Square Enix's Final Fantasy's never ending slew of shit. This is me, I could never win against the Final Fantasy fanboys/girls if I spent 20 years on it, they are too thick-headed to see the truth alongside opinion.


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Tales Of Phantasia, Destiny, Destiny II (Eternia), Tales Of Legendia-The four in America that didn't sell, Symphonia did, 300K in the US. I don't understand why people don't play this series, probably too brainwashed by Square Enix's Final Fantasy's never ending slew of shit.


I have ToP and ToL, and yeah, I guess they are sleepers. ToP is one of the best RPGs to appear for the Super Famicom, and it's really a shame that they never thought to officially bring it to America until this past year.

A large part of the Tales series is still Japan-only, and Namco's many Tales crews have stated why: research shows that Americans don't like 2D games in an era when 3D uber-graphics drive which games are hot.

On one hand, I think it's stupid for them to do that, especially after ToS blew out; they could have been successful with bringing the other Tales over just on brand name.

But then I think they're also partially right, looking at what games sell in America now and why.

Regardless of those things, Tales of the Abyss for the PS2 is thankfully being brought over, and they're considering bringing over Tales of the Tempest as well.

Both will likely be sleeper hits.


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Ico, Advent Rising.... i want to put Conker and Fable on here, but those actually did sell kinda well

i loved Lunar's stories, i just never got into the gameplay x-x

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Ico, Advent Rising.... i want to put Conker and Fable on here, but those actually did sell kinda well

i loved Lunar's stories, i just never got into the gameplay x-x


Conker didn't sell much a ton N64 considering so many people were into Paper Mario and such by then.


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I have ToP and ToL, and yeah, I guess they are sleepers. ToP is one of the best RPGs to appear for the Super Famicom, and it's really a shame that they never thought to officially bring it to America until this past year.

A large part of the Tales series is still Japan-only, and Namco's many Tales crews have stated why: research shows that Americans don't like 2D games in an era when 3D uber-graphics drive which games are hot.

On one hand, I think it's stupid for them to do that, especially after ToS blew out; they could have been successful with bringing the other Tales over just on brand name.

But then I think they're also partially right, looking at what games sell in America now and why.

Regardless of those things, Tales of the Abyss for the PS2 is thankfully being brought over, and they're considering bringing over Tales of the Tempest as well.

Both will likely be sleeper hits.


Yeah I know, I'm a member of Namco's Tales forum, so I get an earful about the Japanese-exclusive titles daily. The big discussions now being Tales Of Eternia's port to the US, if it will happen, and of course TotA.

Tempest is another side issue, and Tales Of Destiny's remake on Ps2.

I hope some of us finally notice TotA, ToL is definately underrated, yes the main game wasn't that good, but the Character Quests were great.

As far as I'm concerned, ToP should sell enough to go Player's Choice on GBA at least, because we need more classics on GBA/DS.


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Haunting Ground.


That's a good game; I don't know why it didn't do better.


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It is a great game.

I also got Disgaea off ebay, whenever I GET IT! mad I'll say that's a sleeper hit, nowhere near a huge game.


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Psychonauts! Why does everyone keep forgeting this great game!


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LOOM....this game was (and still is) incredible..best voice acting in history...nothing else comes close...the only sequals now are fan made, because lucasarts dropped nearly every game franchise they had that didnt have 'starwars' written on it, becasue they didnt sell very well...


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Tales Of Phantasia, Destiny, Destiny II (Eternia), Tales Of Legendia-The four in America that didn't sell, Symphonia did, 300K in the US. I don't understand why people don't play this series, probably too brainwashed by Square Enix's Final Fantasy's never ending slew of shit. This is me, I could never win against the Final Fantasy fanboys/girls if I spent 20 years on it, they are too thick-headed to see the truth alongside opinion.


Darn those FF fanboys. mad

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i dunno. most games i love are famous and score well but many of em dont do well financially.

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shadow of destiny would be one of my favourites.

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many games were cult before when i liked em but now have been accepted in the mainstream. silent hill, xenogears, earlier final fantasies, megaten games, dot hack games, nuclear dawn, koudelka, crono trigger, earlier legacy of kain titles, zone of the enders games etc are some of them.

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