the average genin in naruto can run up walls and move faster than the eye can see, so cloud doesn't really have a speed advantage if any. he may have the jumping advantage, but he'd probably just be confused in the mist realistically.
Cloud was fighting sephroith in mist and stuff while in mid air, cloud was fighting three skill fighters at the same time, two had guns (witch cloud was able to dodge and deflect with ease), one had the haste ability (witch is faster than any Ninja so far in Naruto), and the other was very skilled with his sword. Cloud was also able to knock Bahamut down by himself when it was summoned to attack the city, no one in Naruto has displayed strength on that level yet. Cloud also have distance attacks in his asernal, so Zabuza won't be able to disappear into his mist.
Cloud wasn't one of the best Zack was. Cloud was a loser stuck in a blue uniform he never made solder first class like Zack did so he wasn't the best, he didn’t get the best training either. Zabuza killed over hundred people before the age of 10. Much bester than cloud.
Zabuza can use water clones to distract cloud (which would be easy because cloud isn’t very smart) then BAM water imprisonment followed by water summon Cloud dead. Clouds fighting abilities just don’t compare to Zabaza’s. Also Zabaza can do everything that Cloud does in advent children he just doesn’t get the chance to.
that dosnt matter he killed the wepons
cloud is much faster than zabuza.
and if he did do his mist jutsu cloud would just jump out of it and cast ultima or some other type of powerfull materia and the mist would disapper.
if zabuza dose his water clone cloud would do omnislash and omnislash hits every one it is derected at so zabuza is scwed
Cloud was weak when he first came to soldier, but not now. He's one of the best now.
Zabuza killed weak, untrained people, he won't be doing that to Cloud who's far stronger than him.
Cloud was smart enough to save the world from being destroyed by Sephiroth. And those water clones won't fool Cloud, I doubt Zabuza will be able to pull any justsu off before being killed.
Cloud beat the best swordman in soldier (Seph), his fighting abbilty is way higher than Zabuza.
Prove it. No one has displayed strength on Cloud's level in Naruto (not even him). A sword strike will cut Zabuza apart or send him flying off some where, his strength doesn't come close in comparison.
Jumping above the mist and casting ultima would make the mist go away for a little while but it would come right back. Cloud is limited with magic he can't cast ultima forever.
Zabaza killed ninjas not weak untrained people
Cloud saving the world didn't require much intelligence thought the game he is pretty stupid.
How in the hell would could be able to tell the difference between a water clone and the real thing. He has never had to deal with clones before and he doesn't have any special ablates that can see thought ninjizu.
Cloud joined solder at 14 or 15 Zabaza was a ninja at 8 and a part of the ANBU assassination squad before the age of 15. Zabaza fight training far exceeds that of clouds.
Zabaza's sword is larger and heavier than clouds and he swings around with just as much ease as cloud does so that proves his strength.
Zabaza is far to good of a fighter\assassin to get beaten by cloud. Skill will always prevail over mindless sword swinging strength.
Who said Cloud has to go to the extreme to get Zabuza, all Cloud needs to do is jump out of there. Zabuza is going to have to re cast it, but that takes up chakra. He'll just be wasting it, because cloud will jump out of the mist everytime.
They're still weak compared to Cloud, who fights monsters and armed soldiers with weapons.
What has Zabuza done, nothing. Cloud saving the world is far better and takes smarts to do, since Sephiroth wasn't stupid at all.
How the heck is Zabuza going to pull the technique off against someone who's going to be attacking him, Cloud doesn't have to stand there while Zabuza use his move.
Cloud fought three clones actually, and they were equiped with far superior weapons than Zabuza.
So, how is this going to help him in this fight.
Zabuza was fooled by Childern (Naruto and Sasuke), he doesn't come close to far exceeding him. And Cloud has beaten people with more experinced than him, like Seph.
How does that proves his Strength?
Cloud sword is larger and heavier, and he swings it around with ease. And chop buildings and knock building size monsters done with ease. Cloud is way stronger.
Yet he lost to people weak than Cloud. Cloud will beat Zabuza, it's not going to last long.
Cloud have all the above, switch makes Zabuza a dead man.
and some naruto chars can 1 hit kill monsters with barehands, what's your point
killed 100 ppl in a chunin exam as well as kill a lot of jounins, chunins, as well as attempt to kill the mizukage. he beat kakashi the first time untill he escaped the waterprison with sasuke/naruto's help and exhausted him the 2nd time, whose one of the strongest ninjas in naruto. mostly by himself
Cloud saved the world with help from his gang
and zabuza doesn't fight back himself. zabuza can drown him if theres enough water near by or flood the area while attacking with water dragons.
they are different ppl, and superior in your opinion
he beat seph in ac because he was arrogant and never takes him seriously. in ff7, he beat angel seph with a lot of help.
from what i recall seeing in ac, cloud had trouble with beamount and won with the help of aeris praying and his friends tossing him higher so he can get to him. he didn't 1 hit kill it by himself with easy.
Last edited by lightness on Dec 4th, 2006 at 11:41 PM