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Younger Toguro vs. TAS Superman

Who wins this one?

If Toguro can win it, at what level does he have to be at?


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Wtf is TAS Superman?


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Toguro may have what it takes to take out Animate Supes...but Supes also has what it takes to take out Toguro but I'd give it to Toguro a lot more often since he'll go out for the kill and Supes won't.


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If it's Superman from Superman: Doomsday, he takes it. TAS Supes takes it anyway


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Toguro wins.

Oh and Superman Doomsday was crap... both Supes and the movie.

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Superman. Even cartoon Supes is shown to be fatster, stronger, and more durable than YT. He fights in lava like nothing and takes punches from Captain Marvel, who IMO is stronger than YT too, and he wasn't even bruised at all. He beat Captain Atom while his weakness was used against him. YT died by a spirit gun attack (even though we can't compare it's destructive power to HV, it's attack when he fought Sensui only destroyed a hill; Cartoon Supes HV should be at least above lava tampatures) I'm sure HV and CB could stop YT easily.


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Superman decimates Toguro. Toguro is not in his league.


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If it's Superman from Superman: Doomsday, he takes it. TAS Supes takes it anyway


Yea.

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I'd like any proof TAS Supes is even as fast as Hiei in the Saint Beasts Arc who struck a guy 16 times before said guy could react. And that guy could strike a hundred times in a second.

Oh and Toguro could just suck out Supes' soul no sweat....

Oh and Cartoon Supes was hurt by far less than what Toguro can dish out. Such as Volcana and Livewire.


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Superman. Even cartoon Supes is shown to be fatster, stronger, and more durable than YT. He fights in lava like nothing and takes punches from Captain Marvel, who IMO is stronger than YT too, and he wasn't even bruised at all. He beat Captain Atom while his weakness was used against him. YT died by a spirit gun attack (even though we can't compare it's destructive power to HV, it's attack when he fought Sensui only destroyed a hill; Cartoon Supes HV should be at least above lava tampatures) I'm sure HV and CB could stop YT easily.


You're kidding, right? Have you even seen YYH? Toguro, just by punching the ground, was creating massive craters. And he outclasses the likes of Hiei in speed, who has teleportation-like movement. Just the act of powering up was so powerful that people around him were being incinerated.

Animated Supes gets raped.

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I'd like any proof TAS Supes is even as fast as Hiei in the Saint Beasts Arc who struck a guy 16 times before said guy could react. And that guy could strike a hundred times in a second.


Not this again...

Will people ever interpret this scene correctly.

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Oh and Toguro could just suck out Supes' soul no sweat....


Doubtful. Superman isn't a lower apparition.

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Oh and Cartoon Supes was hurt by far less than what Toguro can dish out. Such as Volcana and Livewire.


Low ends and high ends, eh?


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Well you're using all the high ends. So i used the low ends.

And what is the "correct" (translation for you: YOUR) interpretation of that scene with Hiei?


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Livewire were and Volcana were ealier villians, at the end of JLU and SD movie, Supes should take Toguro easy.


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Well you're using all the high ends. So i used the low ends.


I don't recall using a feat period. You seeing things?

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And what is the "correct" (translation for you: YOUR) interpretation of that scene with Hiei?


No, it's the correct interpretation (I.E. What happened)

Shiyuu dashed, Hiei sliced. No attack besides Hiei was involved. Making it nothing but 16 slashes faster than his eye could register (well after the first slice, what is he registering?)


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No, it's the correct interpretation (I.E. What happened)

Shiyuu dashed, Hiei sliced. No attack besides Hiei was involved. Making it nothing but 16 slashes faster than his eye could register (well after the first slice, what is he registering?)

I think you missed the point.

A guy who can throw about 100 punches in a second is obviously hella fast. And the fact that Hiei was able to speedblitz him before he could even throw one says a lot about Hiei's speed at that time, especially considering Seiryuu started out in the exact same stance he used against Byakko.

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I think you missed the point.

A guy who can throw about 100 punches in a second is obviously hella fast. And the fact that Hiei was able to speedblitz him before he could even throw one says a lot about Hiei's speed at that time, especially considering Seiryuu started out in the exact same stance he used against Byakko.


Not really. Attack speed has nothing to do with movement speed.. and that's what Seiyuu was doing prior to attacking... Moving in order to close the distance between him and Hiei. Hiei just appeared to move MUCH faster than Seiyuu.


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Who said all he was doing was moving forward? He could have easily been moving forward and throwing his punches at the same time.

He was clearly starting in the same stance he used to throw that flurry of punches after all. And Hiei wasn't standing much farther away than Byakko was when Seiryuu attacked them respectively.

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Who said all he was doing was moving forward? He could have easily been moving forward and throwing his punches at the same time.


Because that's what we see him doing. His punching hand was still at his waist when he was cut in half.

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He was clearly starting in the same stance he used to throw that flurry of punches after all. And Hiei wasn't standing much farther away than Byakko was when Seiryuu attacked them respectively.


He showed the stance, then he ran at Hiei. He never got an attack off because he was sliced in half already.


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Because that's what we see him doing. His punching hand was still at his waist when he was cut in half.

Which mostly says that Hiei speedblitzed him before he could even throw a single punch. And considering the speed at Which this guy has shown to be able to move his hands, that still says a lot.
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He showed the stance, then he ran at Hiei. He never got an attack off because he was sliced in half already.

And showing the stance strongly suggests that he was about to deliver his flurry of punches just like he did a minute before, but got speedblitzed instead. Considering Byakko's statement about said stance, it's more about punching then it is about just running.

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Which mostly says that Hiei speedblitzed him before he could even throw a single punch. And considering the speed at Which this guy has shown to be able to move his hands, that still says a lot.


I don't get how a character who just proved that they run slower has anything to do with being blitzed before they punched. Of course they're not going to throw a single punch if they didn't even get into position yet.

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And showing the stance strongly suggests that he was about to deliver his flurry of punches just like he did a minute before, but got speedblitzed instead. Considering Byakko's statement about said stance, it's more about punching then it is about just running.


No he doesn't. When Seiyuu throws his punches, you see his hand extended. He was to far fro hie..

You know what, just go look at the scans. I'm not in the mood for back and forth...


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