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kajuboi707
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Mystic Gohan Vs. SSJ 3 Goku

So im sure that this topic has been covered, probably under numerous occasions, but i would like to ask nevertheless.... Who do you guys believe is stronger? ssj3 Goku or mystic gohan? Many people say mystic gohan because of the fact that ssj3 goku tires so quickly. What do you guys think?

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I personally go on the Mystic Gohan side, yea. Power about equal but not as tiring.


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Mystic Gohan beat Super buu gotenks...need i say more?


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Gohan is stronger. It's pretty much confirmed in the manga.

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Mystic Gohan beat Super buu gotenks...need i say more?

No he didn't.

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Gohan is stronger


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Manga confirms it. I believe Akira even stated that Gohan was the strongest non-fused character? Only Vegito, Buuhan and Buutenks are stronger.


Also, some guide says that SS1 Gotenks = SS3 Goku.


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Mystic Gohan beat Super buu gotenks...need i say more?
What are you talking about, mystic gohan beat super buu but not super buu with gotenks and piccolo absorbed that's where super buu turned it around and started picking mystic gohan apart.

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Manga confirms it. I believe Akira even stated that Gohan was the strongest non-fused character? Only Vegito, Buuhan and Buutenks are stronger.


Also, some guide says that SS1 Gotenks = SS3 Goku.
I am not sure about super saiyan gotenks equalling super saiyan 3 goku because we all know super saiyan 3 goku would put up a far better fight against super buu than super saiyan gotenks, I mean look at the fight super saiyan 3 goku put up against the super buu that absorbed super saiyan 3 gotenks and piccolo and kid buu.

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In my opinion Mystic Gohan may be 4 to 10 times stronger than super saiyan 3 goku but goku's skill and experience is alot greater than gohan's, plus goku has on numerous occasions beaten enemies stronger than himself. Mystic Gohan's power difference might still make up for it but I think if Goku gave it the same effort he puts in against his enemies then the ball could be just as much in his court as Gohan's.

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I dont think(?) Goku fought SuperBuu in the manga, and fighting KidBuu doesn't mean much.


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Originally posted by KAIKAGE
In my opinion Mystic Gohan may be 4 to 10 times stronger than super saiyan 3 goku but goku's skill and experience is alot greater than gohan's, plus goku has on numerous occasions beaten enemies stronger than himself. Mystic Gohan's power difference might still make up for it but I think if Goku gave it the same effort he puts in against his enemies then the ball could be just as much in his court as Gohan's.


Well said, I was going to say something like this as well. when a topic like this comes up, where it would be impossible to actually declare a winner, short of Akira Toriyama reopening the dragonball series and incorporating this fantasy fight. To find the victor though means of involving the fans to cast their votes wouldn't be fair and neither would simply stating "Gohan is stronger", no matter the validity of the claim, would do this series justice, as it is not who is stronger, it is who would win in a fight. Gohan has been my favorite DBZ character since his fight against Nappa, but in all fairness, Goku would be the obvious winner. Gohan might be the strongest person in the entire DBZ universe, but he lacks that drive Goku and Vegeta have, or rather he does have that same passion, just not towards combat. I am sure there are people that may disagree with my thoughts on the matter, but it is important to remember that , although it may look like these warriors are just kicking, punching and blowing stuff up with energy blasts, they are all martial artists, without the discipline and skills to utilize their superior strength, it would be like Future Trunks VS Cell, when his power lever was far greater than Cell's, but was unable to work with it well.

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Gohan is Stronger

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This is a relatively easy question to answer, because Super Buu can be used as the 'control' to which Goku/Gohan/Gotenks can all be gauged...

Mystic Gohan trounced Super Buu like he was a weak feeb. Buu was literally nothing in comparison:
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Furthermore, after Buu absorbed Gohan he flat-out stated that his power was "a lot" greater than it was after he absorbed Gotenks:
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SSJ3 Gotenks was able to put up one hell of a fight against Super Buu, and Piccolo even confirmed that his power was "close to" that of Buu's(8th scan.) However, Gohan was CLEARLY above Buu, whereas Gotenks was roughly equal(ie. Mystic Gohan>Super Buu=/>SSJ3 Gotenks):
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Goku, on the other hand, flat-out stated that he wasn't nearly strong enough to contend with Super Buu(ie. Mystic Gohan>Super Buu=/>SSJ3 Gotenks>SSJ3 Goku):
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So to sum it up: Mystic Gohan>SSJ3 Gotenks>SSJ3 Goku.


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So to sum it up: Mystic Gohan>SSJ3 Gotenks>SSJ3 Goku.

This we have to agree.

Mystic Gohan is contended to be the strongest non-fused character in Dragonball (excluding the crap that is GT).

Strongest fused character is SSJ1 Vegetto, hands down.


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So to sum it up: Mystic Gohan>SSJ3 Gotenks>SSJ3 Goku.

This we have to agree with.

Mystic Gohan is contended to be the strongest non-fused character in Dragonball (excluding the crap that is GT).
For fused characters, it is arguably SSJ1 Vegetto, hands down.


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I don't see how that can even be argued, tbh. As far as non-fused characters go, SSJ3 Goku and Mystic Gohan were far and away the most powerful beings in Z. However, Goku flat-out stated that he wouldn't stand a chance against the same character that Gohan effortlessly trounced (Super Buu.) ie. Mystic Gohan>>Super Buu>>SSJ3 Goku.

As far as fusions go, Super Buu(/w/Gotenks/Piccolo) stomped Mystic Gohan with a fair amount of ease. After absorbing Gohan, Buu stated that he had powered up "a lot". ie. Buu(/w/ Gohan)>>Buu(/w/ Gotenks)>>Mystic Gohan>>Super Buu>>SSJ3 Goku. Despite Buu possessing THAT level of power, SSJ Vegito still dominated him like he was less than nothing. That's why Vegito is the most powerful being ever seen in DBZ proper... By a HUGE margin.


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I wonder how strong Goku will be compared to Mystic Gohan in the new movie?

Always left a bitter taste in my mouth that Goku's poncy son ended up being the most powerful. What a Sue ass character.

Too bad its going to have the shitty japanese voice actors. that's right, shitty. japanese. voice actors.


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With how Mystic Gohan got the short end of the stick in Wrath of the Dragon, I'm gonna guess they'll make SS3 Goku look better again. If we're going by just the movies that is.


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The new movie is going to be canon though unlike the others.

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That I did not know. Guess it could go either way then far as Goku coming off as stronger than Gohan, but hopefully they'll still give the Mystic form a big moment of triumph like against Super Buu.


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