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Stigma
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Prove the external world exists...

Without appealing to the senses.

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Obvious attempt at inciting an argument is obvious.


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Stigma
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I was rather thinking that it is impossible to prove.

BTW Solipsism sure is fun rock

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Prove it doesn't.

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Astner
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Originally posted by Stigma
Without appealing to the senses.

I can't.

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Prove it doesn't.

I can't.

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I can't.


I can't.

Well looks like we have ourselves a stalemate. I'll rely on my senses when I exit a building through the front door and Stigma can exit through the highest window.

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Prove the sensory world exists w/o appealing to the senses.

Nice.


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Well looks like we have ourselves a stalemate. I'll rely on my senses when I exit a building through the front door and Stigma can exit through the highest window.

Siding with an answer to a question you don't have the answer to does not make you any less ignorant.

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What would constitute a valid proof?


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Siding with an answer to a question you don't have the answer to does not make you any less ignorant.

No it doesn't, but between being ignorant and alive vs ignorant and dead, I'll choose the former.

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What would constitute a valid proof?

If he knew that he wouldn't be asking us to prove the external universe exist. If you're asking what he's asking for, then he's asking us to prove the external universe exist by using rationalism not empiricism. But he also makes it clear that he's asking for the "external" world, rationalism requires you to think of something, so "external" might not apply.

He's basically asking us to prove unicorns or bigfoot exist without using physical proof.

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Very relevant

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There has to be some external world, otherwise my mind wouldn't have something to bounce off of to develop over time.


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Re: Prove the external world exists...

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Without appealing to the senses.



Vibration


End Of Discussion.

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Cogito ergo sum [a] is a Latin philosophical proposition by René Descartes usually translated into English as "I think, therefore I am". The phrase originally appeared in French as je pense, donc je suis in his Discourse on the Method, so as to reach a wider audience than Latin would have allowed.


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Vibration

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If you don't understand the question, don't answer.

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Cogito ergo sum [a] is a Latin philosophical proposition by René Descartes usually translated into English as "I think, therefore I am". The phrase originally appeared in French as je pense, donc je suis in his Discourse on the Method, so as to reach a wider audience than Latin would have allowed.

It's a postulate, not a proof.

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Prove the sensory world exists w/o appealing to the senses.

Nice.
Prove the Anti-Matter Universe exist without being there.

thumb up Nice

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Vibration


End Of Discussion.
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Without appealing to the senses.


What do you mean by external world?


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Stigma, what is the answer to Josh's question? Is the external world everything except for our body? Or everything except for our awareness? Or something else?


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Stigma
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Stigma, what is the answer to Josh's question? Is the external world everything except for our body? Or everything except for our awareness? Or something else?

Let's make it interesting. External world as in everything except our body.

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