Apocalypse possess extensive psionic abilities as well as super speed, strength, endurance, agility and over all skill. Magneto as powerful as he is just doesn't measure up to the extent of power that Apocalypse wields. He'd been one of the longest living and most powerful mutants known and that wasn't because he was just pretty to look at. He's the ultimate survivor and would literally crush Magneto in the palm of his hands without Magnus' knowledge. In their past encounters Magneto never stood a chance against the unparalleled genius that was En Sabah Nur and no one else did either. When did Magneto ever beat Apocalypse? AOA? Ha. That doesn't even count.
The only person who was able and did kill Apocalypse off for good was the man destine to do so. Cable. I vote Apocalypse. He's smarter, stronger and more durable than Magneto ever was.
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actually i like the original apocalypse much better than the "celestial tech" version you are trying to speak of. nobody knows for sure that he did testing on himself with it...
he is a trained warrior, and can manipulate energies on atleast a scale on par with magneto... so apoc is a better warrior, STRONGER, and can manipulate energies just as good...
Magneto would lose, I mean apocalypse is just on another level than Magnus, I mean I'm not going to use a video game as credentials but on the SF crossover games apocalypse was the "last" villain while Magneto was just a mere fighter on the game..Apocalypse has this "all powereful" persona and can't be beaten by mere brute force, only time has proven the hinderance to stopping Apocalypse...Magneto has trouble with plastic sentinels, Apoc could take out an entire fleet of sentinels bar none....
Now the X-men and Magneto might compare to Apoc's power but I still can't see them defeating him off of mere power alone...His body is indestructable, while he could take "Alot" of Magnus's attacks I feel Magneto could not take "one good" attack from Apoc, and believe me Apoc will land an attack..Magneto is mutant BUT flesh and blood and one good hard shot from Apoc is going to literally "kill him"..Unless Magneto can go this entire fight without being touched by one of Marvels MOST POWERFUL mutants(which he WILL NOT!!) then he will be beaten easily..
Why not? Magneto ripped him apart. If you're going to say Apocalypse can pull him together, Magnus can rip him apart and disperse him across the world. If you're going to say it's not canon, it is. Legion went back in time and killed Xavier and AOA happened. Magneto with half his regular power defeated Nur. If it wasn't canon, what's with X-Man and Holocaust's existence?
What level? The I'm the first and oldest mutant in the world and my dreamsof world domination has yet to be reliezed? The I'm the terror in the night but afraid to come out of my hole to face my shadow? What's he's done to show his power? Aside from Marvel's bio on him being the first and or most power, what has he actually done in comics (not games or cartoons) to prove that? Magneto his messed with the magnetic poles of the planet. Being flesh and blood means nothing since Thor, Wonder Man, X-Man, Franklin Richards, etc. are flesh and blood as well. Apocalypse is going to be hitting force fields rather than Magneto himself. Apocalypse hasn't done much with his time on Earth or Celestial to say he can beat Magneto. Aside from his croonies, what has En Sabah Nur his done to prove he's one of the most powerful mutant, more powerful than Magneto?
hmm...what r we talking about? a straight up brawl, or more complex assualts...because both these guys r smart...especially Apoc, who probably already has a plan for beating Mags. But someone brought up a good point mentioning Apoc's superior physiology...In a fight, the speed strength and reflexes would be a big power...although Mags has had widespread demonstrations of his power, like the EM pole thing, I havent seen many profound destructive focused demonstrations...do we know Mags has the destructive power to hurt someone with the physiology and durability of Apoc...
I think its a good and close fight, but Im leaning toward Apoc.
There's two classes of villains in Marvel universe, villans/super-villans
Magneto: Villan ;Apocalypseuper-villan...
What do you mean being flesh and blood means nothing? Thor prolly could withstand a couple of blows from Apoc just because he has taken blows from The hulk which means he is beyond human vunerability, Magneto on the other hand would be toppled by a very hard blow from a mortal human being..
Magneto's force field can't withstand "extremely" strong attacks for long, if'n the forcefield could then Magneto would be "the" strongest villan of all-time but thats not the case at all..The fact is Apoc will wear down Magneto's shield with his powers.....
Apocalypse, I think. I never liked the fight between Magneto and Apocalypse in AoA (great series though). Apocalypse is just more powerful, and Magneto is a lousy fighter. Powerful and smart yeah, but so is Apocalypse.
When written right, Apocalypse should win.
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Dec 10th, 2004 05:04 PM
i dont know where you got that at.
uper-villan...
