Is there a conceivable way that Spiderman can beat Thing? Spiderman's beaten more versatile foes - some who'd give Thing a run for his money - has slowed down the Hulk for a little bit plus he has a speed and agility advantage over Grimm. So, how would Spiderman fare?
Well, the Thing brought his fanboy to this fight, so I'll even things out a bit with some good 'ol SM fanboyism too.
Thing would never land a punch. Spider-Man has fought for days without seriously tiring, and has avoided Juggernaut for extended periods of time. Juggs crushes Ben in nearly every category, so I don't see why this should be any different. And despite the fact that SM is only class 10-15, he's taken punches from the Hulk and others in Thing's class. Any punch would hurt, but Ben won't be taking Spidey's head off with one blow. SM is too durable for that.
Long fight, and Spidey eventually chips away at Ben long enough to do some harm to him. And as previously stated, Thing would never lay a finger on Peter. SM wins.
peters hands would break or bruise too much before he ever did any serious harm to ben...seriously...
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Thing cannot be compared to Juggernaut or Hulk....that just doesnt make sense...Jug has beaten Thing, but whats that got to do with Spiderman? Thing is a vastly superior hand to hand fighter than either Jugs or Hulk. He is also more resourceful and a better strategist. Thing doesnt need to lay a finger on him, he could just produce a thunderclap that would slow Spidey down long enough to grab him.
SM doesn't need to punch Ben. He can web mailboxes and lampposts into him and knock him around. He can web him and yank him into a building or into the air before Ben can tear the webs. Then when he's in the air jump up and smahs him back down into the concrete, or into a car or something. There's plenty of options...Spidey once hurt the Hulk (not a ton, but still) and it wasn't by engaging him in a fistfight.
ummm if spidey tries to yank him and bn pulls on the web...where does the strength advantage lie?..cause it ain't with spidey that's for damn sure.....
you think a lamp post if gonna hurt him when he takes hulk punches? anything spiderman tries to throw at him he can just punch into debris or catch and throw it back....
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
Why does it not make sense to compare Juggs to Thing? Both are Class 100 or so brawlers with some similar characteristics. And when has Thing ever used a thunderclap to take out someone of SM's caliber? I'm not huge into the FF, so maybe he has, but I've never heard of him using it like Hulk or someone (Hulk is also much stronger and able to produce a more sizable clap).
Spidey's survived a Hulk thunderclap and recovered fast enough not to get killed. lol. So a Thing thunderclap, being less powerful, wouldn't be a problem.
yes he has staggered the Hulk once. He also staggered the Thing once, but it was stated by the narrator that the only reason he was able to move the Thing was because Thing was already tired from beating wonderman and she-hulk back to back.
thunderclap from the thing would be enough to destabilize spiderman's equilibrium long enough to smack him with something...it that doesn't get the job done multiple thunderclas would...
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
But he'll still never touch SM. And yes, if he webs and yanks before Ben does anything, he'll be in the air and lose his leverage. Parker wouldn't willingly get into a yanking match with a Class 100 person. And the aggregate effect of enough lightposts, mailboxes, cars, web-hurls, etc. will wear Thing down. In the meantime, he'll never touch Parker with fists or projectiles...he's too fast for that.
And if Ben keeps thunderclapping, SM can just keep a safe distance away until he gets an opportunity to strike (unless Ben just does it forever which would just make it a stalemate).
and apparently spiderman won't be tired at all from ripping lightposts and lamp posts out of the ground hurling cars and mailboxes by the hundreds right?
and trying to pick up said things would never leave him open to a counter attack either right?
and of course thing is just going to stand there and let spidey web him and yank him...cause things a moron right?
pffffft...
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
and he won't have instantanious knowledge of thing's game plan...spidey moves in on thing..thing claps a couple times...spidey gets dizzy ...BAM spidey just got hit with a street light...end of fight...
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
I'm not saying it wouldn't take time jinzin...if Thing's in a position to hurt SM, Peter will just jump away until another opportunity arises. How did he avoid Juggs and Hulk for so long? Same way.
And sure he'd get a little tired, but as I've said before he's fought for days (against powerful opponents...Morbius and Juggs come to mind) without seriously tiring. It wouldn't be an issue.
I have serious doubts about the effect of a Thing thunderclap. If he could recover from Hulk's clap and avoid him what the hell would a Thing clap do? Not much. I've also never seen Ben use that tactic, though like I said I could be wrong there. Spider-sense added to his already otherworldly agility means no amount of sub-par thunderclaps will be enough to touch Parker.
first off he never avoids hulk all that long....hulk lways gets to him and swats him good....he can jump around all he wants...but thing's not an idiot...he can play the waiting game...if spiderman's best game plan is to run away his chances of winning this fight are slim....very slim.....
and you're acting as if he literally went punch for punch for days on end....he hasn't....he's been in scenarios where a conflict was carried on for days like maximum carnage...in a straight up fight though...spiderman's fatigued in a few minutes during battle.... things had his fair share of days-on-end conflicts as well...if you think spiderman's situations supercede thing's and the rest of the ff you're out of your damned mind...
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
you are insane...spider sense nore agility have anything to do with his eardrums and equilibrium....if thing uses a thunderclap, it's gonna mess up spidey's equilibrium end of story.....he didn't immediatley recover from a hulk thunderclap either...good thing doc samson was there to save his arse...
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
I don't mean to sound like I'm not giving Thing credit (though I probably haven't until now) and I also didn't say SM owns this fight, but merely that I think he could win. Also, I never read the Hulk fight...I was going off of KVD's words up there for the thunderclap deal...but anything else I've talked about I've read (including Morbius, Juggs, etc.).
And again, I would doubt the effect of a Thing thunderclap until someone can show me where he's used it effectively at all against any sort of opponent. Just because Hulk, who is many times stronger than Thing, can do it doesn't mean Thing's will be anywhere near as useful.
And my point about the tiring was that Spidey jumping around and hitting Ben multiple times will eventually tire Ben more than hitting him with it will tire Peter. But I do know that they both have the potential to fight for a long time, and that Thing would take a ton of damage before finally going down.
You make some decent points though, and maybe I'm giving SM too much credit...but I also think you're not giving him quite enough either.
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Spiderman vs Thing
Jun 27th, 2005 12:06 AM
"damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
anything spiderman tries to throw at him he can just punch into debris or catch and throw it back....
you are insane...spider sense nore agility have anything to do with his eardrums and equilibrium....if thing uses a thunderclap, it's gonna mess up spidey's equilibrium end of story.....he didn't immediatley recover from a hulk thunderclap either...good thing doc samson was there to save his arse...
